Nakayama correctiv

[Swann BUTEL 9]

Hi every one, 

Since january i work nakayama, i have slow but good result, i'm able to do nakayama with wrist strap now but i seem's to be impossible without i lose the false grip, i don't sure if my form are correct, i need your expert eyes.
this is a video of my nakayama.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhzGZNQHDA4vpD-i5JinMzbPv_l689EeCJhiwY0/?taken-by=swannbuttel

Thx every one 

[Sarah Gordon 7]

Hi, link does not seem to be working....

[Swann BUTEL 9]

Sure ?? With me it work 

You are right try this one https://www.instagram.com/p/BhzGZNQHDA4vpD-i5JinMzbPv_l689EeCJhiwY0/?taken-by=swannbuttel

Edited April 28, 2018 by Swann BUTEL

[Swann BUTEL 9]

1 hour ago, Swann BUTEL said:

Sure ?? With me it work 

You are right try this one https://www.instagram.com/p/BhzGZNQHDA4vpD-i5JinMzbPv_l689EeCJhiwY0/?taken-by=swannbuttel

It

 

[Sarah Gordon 7]

Yes, working OK now. Leave it to the coaches to comment....

[Alessandro Mainente 10,508]

-Your elbows are pointed down, this means that the shoulder rotation in the socket is not completed. also, the rings straps are too short. when you move to long straps the things are going to change.

-body is arched in the back lever position

-when you step back on the iron cross the shoulders are too high.

[Swann BUTEL 9]

Hi alessandro,

Thx for your answer,  i have trouble with shoulder and scap position, i read the scap need to be neutre and i must squeeze my triceps on my lat, but when i go down i feel my chest arch and i loose the tension. should i try with more protracted scapula ?
For my shoulder heigh i agree i work on this but it s long way too feel the perfect position.

have you a video off the perfect technique ?

[Alessandro Mainente 10,508]

Never protract in the iron cross. shoulder must be held in neutral position for best strength effort.

[Swann BUTEL 9]

It is true when i go down in back lever ? 

[Everett Carroll 3,539]

You want a bit of protraction in the back lever, Swann.

[Swann BUTEL 9]

If this one look better, i feel good on my position ?

 

Edited May 1, 2018 by Swann BUTEL

[Alessandro Mainente 10,508]

Well, I remember that when I visited a national training center couple of years ago...top gymnasts were not allowed to train this consistently until 15-20 iron cross seconds.

[Swann BUTEL 9]

Hi alessandro, 

I have read a post off you speak about 15-20 sec cross hold is a pre req for advanced cross work like nakayama and azarian, in fact i have read all the post about rings in this forum =). i have 15 sec cross hold max,  i have no access to real gym i do ring like i can.
I can press iron cross with 12 kg. I always do isometric like a part off my warm up 

Thx for your recommandation

[Alessandro Mainente 10,508]

In  This case, I would use eccentric from crosses to inverted hand with a straight body passing from the back lever.

[Swann BUTEL 9]

i will try today and post my progress, thx a lot.
 

[Swann BUTEL 9]

I alessandro,

I try your exercice for a couple off week,  i think i need te bo more slow i the transition.
Wath do you think ?

 

[Swann BUTEL 9]

Some progress off my nakayama,

i realise that my technic is not good, i arch my chest and my body + my shoulder is not in good position.
After look many video i thinks my shoulder need to roll forward at the begining off the moove and on back lever the scapula need to be a little bit protracted and shoulder pointed down.
Is more a fall in back lever than a "swing" look i do.
Critic are welcome