John Dalton Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Got a question.......is it possible to attain a straddle planche without training the back lever? I know that BL training will help with PL training but is it possible?Thank You :!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieborro Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I think so BL would help a lot In my opinion, but it's not necessary (although PL would not benefit by a good static position...)charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dalton Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 thanksbut what does this mean? "(although PL would not benefit by a good static position...)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dalton Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Thought I'd break into this forum... I read in Beastskills that the weighted pull-up is a good assistance exercise to the front lever but Coach Sommer mentioned it isnt.So can anyone give me some assistance exercises, including for the core, for the front lever.Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 If your pull strength is weak, weighted pull variants can help that aspect of the front lever. If your core is weak, you need to work on the body lever portion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dalton Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Thanks a lot.My Pulling strength is whats holding me back, so weighted pull-ups and inverted rows are the ones I choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Inverted rows...sure. Work on tuck lever pullups or adv tuck/straddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dalton Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Thanks for the help blairblob....Assuming core strength is sufficient, how much weight should i be able to handle in the weighted pull-up for the full front lever.I know pull-ups are not directly related to front levers but i'm looking for a good guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 That's anyone guess, really. I'm sure a lot of depends on the body size of the individual. Height, weight, limb length. A guesstimate some people have thrown around is 75% of BW added to your pullup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Sommer Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Got a question.......is it possible to attain a straddle planche without training the back lever? I know that BL training will help with PL training but is it possible?For a planche on the floor; yes, for a planche on the rings; doubtful.Yours in Fitness,Coach Sommer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael David Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Got a question.......is it possible to attain a straddle planche without training the back lever? I know that BL training will help with PL training but is it possible?For a planche on the floor; yes, for a planche on the rings; doubtful.Yours in Fitness,Coach SommerSo if I can do straddle PL on floor I can't do it on rings? How I make this transition from the floor to rings? I should start a new SSC for planche, but now on rings? :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Sommer Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Mikael,Unfortunately the ability to perform a planche on the floor will have little to no bearing on being able to perform a planche on the rings. Straight arm ring strength elements are a completely separate animal from all other gymnastics strength and require their own series of progressions in addition to a solid base of FBE (at least having progressed up to Bowers and legless rope climbs). I have previously shared a part of that progression here.Yours in Fitness,Coach Sommer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael David Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Coach, thank you! I forgot this post... So from one progression to other, how much time we should hit to be able to safely jump to a harder variation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Sommer Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 ... So from one progression to other, how much time we should hit to be able to safely jump to a harder variation? ...Complete mastery is necessary to avoid over-use injuries and tendonitis.Yours in Fitness,Coach Sommer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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