Michael Traynor Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Hello all,As you know I am very much a Forum regular and I have not quite found enough information on the XR Backwards Roll to learn how to execute one yet. I was wondering if anyone had a Tutorial, suggested prerequisites, tips etc, or indeed just a link to a previous thread that I have missed.This movement along with XR HS Press ups are holding me back in progress, obviously HS Press Ups are easy to scale and i'm working away at them.Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymgreg Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 For me it was a matter of just try, modify and repeat until I got the timing right.Important points I found are:Keeping a false grip.Keeping arms near your body all the time.Keep your arms bent at around 90° or less (don't straighten them).When rolling back pike your hips to go into a reverse crank like position.With a continuous motion open your hips when you are inverted. Here the timing is critical and you might have to try a lot.Best thing is to film your tries and figure out if you opened to late/early.Catching /Pressing out of the roll is like deep deficit Korean dipHere is a video with perfect execution.http://www.drillsandskills.com/video/ria010.mpgStudying it frame by frame helped me a lot.Also the crossfit journal (if you happen to be a subscriber) had a video on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Carr Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Try holding a band between the rings while youre doing it so it's like doing a pullover but with an elastic band that youre leaning on instead of a bar. Maybe this would help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Having a really deep is necessary. A Korean dip may be useful but is nowhere as hard as a RTO dip with the rings faced forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Mainente Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 for my experience, if you increase your biceps's strength the movements can be more easy, if you do it with momentum is more easy, if you do more slow you need more strength and control.in the beginning i wasn0t able of do it also i had a great biceps's strength! in the same weeks i've started to train the pseudo maltese with arms started at 90° at the level of the shoulders anfter i wwnt down until the arms were opened at 120-130° but with the body in a high BL position and after push/pull back..this thing helped me a lot to learn the controlled backward roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 I am finding that reverse MU work helps a lot as well. I like the elastic idea, I'll be playing with that. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I got my first backward roll starting with forward roll.Start in support,roll forward to 180º and then go back! Hold your false grip (don´t lose it when you roll forward) keep your arms bend and close to your body,and when you are upside down....YYYaaaahhhhh!!..go back! Go for broke.Kicked when you are rolling back (90º) may help.My 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Mainente Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 great man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Traynor Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 Great advice Rings, will give this a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymgreg Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Congrats Rings and love that drawing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Cool!I don´t know if this is the best way to do backward roll,but for me,it was great to understand the dynamic of the skill.PPPU,Pelican,deep dips,pseudo maltese...may help as well.Phase 3 and 4 is critical,don´t open your arms,or you gonna get back lever....or kiss the floor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Libke Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I am going to try this tonight! I have been struggling with this move. Thanks for the ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Mainente Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Cool!I don´t know if this is the best way to do backward roll,but for me,it was great to understand the dynamic of the skill.PPPU,Pelican,deep dips,pseudo maltese...may help as well.Phase 3 and 4 is critical,don´t open your arms,or you gonna get back lever....or kiss the floor! i think is possible to open your arms, but you need more strength in order to push down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Cool!I don´t know if this is the best way to do backward roll,but for me,it was great to understand the dynamic of the skill.PPPU,Pelican,deep dips,pseudo maltese...may help as well.Phase 3 and 4 is critical,don´t open your arms,or you gonna get back lever....or kiss the floor! i think is possible to open your arms, but you need more strength in order to push down...Of course! By possible,it´s also possible do with straight arms like Azarian....just depends of your strength! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Cool!I don´t know if this is the best way to do backward roll,but for me,it was great to understand the dynamic of the skill.PPPU,Pelican,deep dips,pseudo maltese...may help as well.Phase 3 and 4 is critical,don´t open your arms,or you gonna get back lever....or kiss the floor! i think is possible to open your arms, but you need more strength in order to push down...Of course! By possible,it´s also possible do with straight arms like Azarian....just depends of your strength!It's in the code of points marked as a B :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick McNamara Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Great advice on this skill! I've been working this one, but will incorporate a few of these tips....so close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternford Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Rings' suggestion is much harder when you can't even do the forward roll part without flopping onto the floor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Rings' suggestion is much harder when you can't even do the forward roll part without flopping onto the floor...Is logical that if you can´t do forward roll,don´t try backward roll yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Nugent Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Its like a pullover on a pullup bar except on the rings, then you end up doing a RTO dip into support, that how i picture it. I just havent got the strength to do it yet. When i first tryed, it was straight after a wod that had pullovers in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Traynor Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 Its like a pullover on a pullup bar except on the rings, then you end up doing a RTO dip into support, that how i picture it. I just havent got the strength to do it yet. When i first tryed, it was straight after a wod that had pullovers in it.Well it is and it isn't; the movement is the same but a pull over is very easy and a BR is far far more difficult. The training is different too, anyone that can do a high pull up should be able to do a pullover. O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Nugent Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Yes I know that, its very hard to do. I meant the movements are similar. Theres no way you could go from doing a pullover and then magically you can do a BR. Unless your already crazy strong which i dont think you could get without gymnastics training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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