Cole Dano Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 On the lying down one, is the hand closer to hips or head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longshanks Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 On the lying down one, is the hand closer to hips or head?I this one the elbow is paralell to the shoulder and once you can push the hand to the floor it is level to the hips. This is probably easy for most, I was so shocked at how bad I was at it that I asked my girlfriend to try it who doesn't do any flexibility work, just dance workout vid's. Just trying to stretch the left shoulder she easily got her left hand to the floor and pivoted inwards so much she nearly touched her right shoulder to left elbow. My god I've got my work cut out for me! Also I've just found one of Ido's vid's describing one of my exercises where you push your shoulders forward as scapular push-ups. Although I'm so weak at this I have to do it stood up against the wall at the moment. It's only when I spoke to a real specialist that I realized how complicated the shoulder is, and how much I seem to have wrong with mine. Suppose at least I'm on the right road now, just a shame it took nearly 3 years for the ignorant NHS to stop fobbing me off and actually get me some professional help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 Videos would always be nice! I believe I know what you're talking about, I will be curious to see if it is.I love bottom of the dip stretches, as long as you are healthy enough to do them! If you're able to get to an ART guy they should be able to help as well, unless you've already done that. You'd be surprised at how much soft tissue restrictions change the whole game up... If you're getting relief right now then things probably aren't too bad in that regard. For me, nothing worked until I started getting rid of soft tissue restrictions and now everything is getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Yep, I love swinging on PB in the bottom of the dip to really stretch out my chest. I'm hoping this will help loosen it up so ring supports won't be as aggravating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASForum Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Did the Part 2 of this video ever get uploaded?"scapular retraction and depression activating and strengthening for shoulder health" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Schreiter Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Did the Part 2 of this video ever get uploaded?"scapular retraction and depression activating and strengthening for shoulder health" ?I was looking for part 2, too. probably he did not upload it yet, but it would be interesting to know when he does, as the first part was really helpful already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Suri Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Without going into the standard Slizzardman detail approach. I'd estimate part 2 would be something like feet supported rows. Don't pull your chest all the way to the bar, stop earlier to prevent internal rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Thank you very much for the video, helping with my shoulders already after 2 years of physio.Eagerly awaiting part 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Suri Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Question: How bad a sign is it when your hands go numb during stretches? I get it almost every time with this stretch. Is there a usual underlying cause to numbness while stretching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 You probably have nerves that are adhered to the muscles at certain points. Neuromuscular massage and nerve glides will help you a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Is the book Pain Free by Peter Egoscue? Just want to make sure I buy the correct one! Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASForum Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Is the book Pain Free by Peter Egoscue? Just want to make sure I buy the correct one! Thank youI think I'll have to get this book. Its been on my To Do list for so long. Without going into the standard Slizzardman detail approach. I'd estimate part 2 would be something like feet supported rows. Don't pull your chest all the way to the bar, stop earlier to prevent internal rotation.Slizzard - Could you get the Part 2 of this video done? Or are you super busy these days? Or maybe describe it in your detailed TEXT in the meantime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted August 18, 2011 Author Share Posted August 18, 2011 I will have this up in the next month or two. As I get my page running this will probably go in the free area for a good long while. The important basic stuff will probably always be free, and depending on how things work out I may just depend on page ads to keep the page solvent so that I can keep pretty much everything free for everyone.I will keep everyone posted. Everything is still a work in progress so I have no idea what final renditions will be like but I will make sure you guys all have what you need! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASForum Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Thanks Slizz. You're the best. Let me know if I can help you in anyway with your page/ site. Would've been easy if you'd just started using Wordpress PS: I've been unable to do a lot of exercise due to bunch of injuries... One major Skiing Accident ..and other stuff. I'm gonna post about ALL of THOSE to get some of your advise on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juiop Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I can definitely understand why bad posture would be an issue in fixing shoulder pain. But I wanted to ask about two exercises I am doing, Ring Support and L-Sit on PB. It seems that when I do these exercises, my shoulders naturally shrug forward, which is what you would call bad posture. While doing Ring Support, I cannot even shrug my shoulders back (the way you are told to do so in almost any weight lifting exercise) even if I tried, it seems impossible. In L-Sit, Coach Sommer stated somewhere that the arms should be fully straight. When I do this I cant help but have my shoulders shrugged forward either.Is this a problem though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Mangona Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Coach wrote a post many years ago stating that XR Supports needed to be done with shoulders back and scapula retracted. Yes, it is easier with shoulders rolled forward, but doing that will develop a weak link in your shoulder girdle. Better to first switch to parallel bars and work on retracted shoulderblades in support position. If you don't have parallel bars, you can try XR supports with your feet propped up and support at 90 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juiop Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 thanks so much for that post! I had no idea. I saw a picture of this guy Tyler Hass (creator of EXF rings) where he was doing it with shoulders forward, so I thought maybe it is okay. I better stop doing Ring Support then. What do you mean by scapular retracted? And do i need to have my shoulders fully shrugged back? So it kinda looks like my chest is sticking out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 thanks so much for that post! I had no idea. I saw a picture of this guy Tyler Hass (creator of EXF rings) where he was doing it with shoulders forward, so I thought maybe it is okay. I better stop doing Ring Support then. What do you mean by scapular retracted? And do i need to have my shoulders fully shrugged back? So it kinda looks like my chest is sticking out?No, the main thing is that serratus should be working so that your scaps stay tight against your ribcage. You also want the shoulders to be neutral with your body vertical. No "rolling" of the shoulders as that is protraction and will not develop the kind of shoulder girdle strength you need for later strength work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Partlow Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I've been lurking this site for a while, and finally joined...I used to get sore shoulders after a workout and I've been doing the stretches in your video for a few weeks and it has helped, but now only my left shoulder gets sore. It feels like the middle of it (medial deltoid I think?) is where the pain is, and its only when I workout. An hour or two afterwards, the pain goes away until I exercise again. Will the stretches keep helping with this, or should I incorporate something like foam rolling? I'm not sure why only my left shoulder muscle gets sore.I should add, this soreness has only started recently, since I started emphasizing muscle ups and back levers in my workouts (on a bar). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole Dano Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 These are impossible questions to answer, there could be so many things going on. I'm willing to bet there are also technique and strength issues.After you have a session that causes this pain, let it recover before repeating, and while doing look for ways you might be straining the shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 Foam rolling should be a permanent part of everyone's warm up and post-workout routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Partlow Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Mr Brady- ok thanks, I think it might be my technique for the muscle ups, combined with trying to advance too quickly on the back lever. I am going to slow it downSlizzardman- I'm going to get a foam roller, I didn't know how important it was. I appreciate the feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 Mr Brady- ok thanks, I think it might be my technique for the muscle ups, combined with trying to advance too quickly on the back lever. I am going to slow it downSlizzardman- I'm going to get a foam roller, I didn't know how important it was. I appreciate the feedbackNo problem! They are a fantastic investment, a properly used foam roller really helps you keep your muscles flexible and prevent scar tissue from building up. They are fairly cheap, available locally and online, and there's tons of free info on how to use them online! Very, very awesome invention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Partlow Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 So I've been doing the foam rolling a little under two weeks now, and I am starting to feel a difference. Each morning I stretch before my workout and stretch and do foam rolling after. I haven't had any shoulder pain in the last 4-5 days. I've been lying on my side and rolling each deltoid muscle, and it seems to be helping. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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