Guest ilove2workout28 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I recently did a full back lever for 10 secs, and after, I felt a pain in my right shoulder (more on the bone area than the muscle). I think I may have overstretched the muscle while doing the exercise. I can do handstand pushups against the wall, and regular pushups still with no pain, a frog stand/tucked planche hurts after like 5 secs and some other positions my shoulder is in too. Any thoughts? Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Winkler Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 How long did it take you to achieve back lever and what position did you start on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffdrc Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 if you feel the pain in the distall end of the collar bone then i had the same thing happen... the movements that hurt me are planche pushups, reverse flys (pronated grip) and bringing the arm horizontally across the midline...i was doing extended rom planche push ups on the rings... i could lower from a planche to back lever, was trying to develop the strength to push from back lever to planche... hurt my shoulder over the summer and its still bothering me... had it x-rayed and looked at by a doctor... doc said rotator cuff is strong and joint integrity looks good... i need an mri and a specialist to look at it but can't afford it without insurance... my advice... be carefull and take care of it... i was wrestling at the time and trying to get ready for the world team trials... definately should have rested and not pushed through it... i have tried rehab and rest and nothing has worked :/ best of luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Winkler Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Planche to back lever with your feet supported or unsupported? Unsupported you talking about a "E" level strength move. Are you a gymnast as well as a wrestler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Planche to back lever with your feet supported or unsupported? Unsupported you talking about a "E" level strength move. Are you a gymnast as well as a wrestler?Planche to back lever is nothing. From inverted cross to inverted hang is A. FROM BL TO PLANCHE is E and not vice versa (this is hard as hell, vice-versa is easy as childs play if you want to compare it).He is talking he wanted to achieve it and he was batling for team for world championship (but don't know if for gymnastic or wrestling). Either way hu must have been or it's a gymnast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ilove2workout28 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 it took me about 6 months or so for the back lever. I started with the easiest progression, and went to the hardest; I just never worked the straddle version because I don't have the room for that progression. Also, I noticed that my body wasn't completely horizontal, so when I made the adjustment, it felt like my biceps and especially shoulders were getting stretched out more. The funny thing is that during my workout today, I did some planche work with handstand pushups, bulgarian and regular dips with no pain. I'm too cautious to try the back lever now. Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Winkler Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Planche to back lever with your feet supported or unsupported? Unsupported you talking about a "E" level strength move. Are you a gymnast as well as a wrestler?Planche to back lever is nothing. From inverted cross to inverted hang is A. FROM BL TO PLANCHE is E and not vice versa (this is hard as hell, vice-versa is easy as childs play if you want to compare it).He is talking he wanted to achieve it and he was batling for team for world championship (but don't know if for gymnastic or wrestling). Either way hu must have been or it's a gymnast.Sorry, I meant back lever to planche. My dyslexia must of got the better of me there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Winkler Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 it took me about 6 months or so for the back lever. I started with the easiest progression, and went to the hardest; I just never worked the straddle version because I don't have the room for that progression. Also, I noticed that my body wasn't completely horizontal, so when I made the adjustment, it felt like my biceps and especially shoulders were getting stretched out more. The funny thing is that during my workout today, I did some planche work with handstand pushups, bulgarian and regular dips with no pain. I'm too cautious to try the back lever now. DanielOk, so you are not a gymnast. You shouldn't of been attempting to do BL to PL on rings then, that is WAAAAAY out of your league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ilove2workout28 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 ummm, i didn't do that transition. lol that was someone else. Wish I could though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Winkler Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 LOL. Whoops. It seems I'm a bit off today.It sounds like you weren't doing the exercise properly so you weren't prepared for it when you did.Perhaps you should take some time off from the exercises that cause you pain and then work through the progressions again with the proper body position. I don't think it will take as long as before, so don't worry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffdrc Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Planche to back lever with your feet supported or unsupported? Unsupported you talking about a "E" level strength move. Are you a gymnast as well as a wrestler?i'm a wrestler... training gymnastics is a great complement to wrestling... but i didn't appreciate the attitude...i could lower from an advance tuck planche to bent arm maltease to back lever... i was working on extending the rom for the adv tuck planche push ups... i was doing 3 sets of 3-5 reps lowering til my forearms were parallel with the floorilove2workout28... i found that strengthening ext rotators and postior delt helped... my biceps and internal rotators were a little tight... i also think dislocates/inlocates help... good luck, i'm still battling the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Winkler Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Planche to back lever with your feet supported or unsupported? Unsupported you talking about a "E" level strength move. Are you a gymnast as well as a wrestler?i'm a wrestler... training gymnastics is a great complement to wrestling... but i didn't appreciate the attitude...i could lower from an advance tuck planche to bent arm maltease to back lever... i was working on extending the rom for the adv tuck planche push ups... i was doing 3 sets of 3-5 reps lowering til my forearms were parallel with the floorWhen did I give you an attitude? But apologies if I came off that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ilove2workout28 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 thanks for all the responses. How do I work the ext rotators? I dont' use weights, and don't plan on it. NO offense to anyone. Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ortprod Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 thanks for all the responses. How do I work the ext rotators? I dont' use weights, and don't plan on it. NO offense to anyone. Daniel1YHIV4a81Os Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Hmm, to note, quite a bit of Coach Sommer's shoulder prevention series use DB and weight plates. Daniel, cuban presses are good for external rotation. Whether you use resistance bands or weights, it's still resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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