Dale Clifton Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I'm a 39 year old male that has been recovering from a low back disc injury. I started doing Kickboxing to build core strength and work on movement then added on Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (which is now a passion). I recently started doing the 2 day integrated F1 and H1 to build strength and mobility. I'm starting at the very beginning but it's the mobility that's the reason I can't move ahead sooner. Because core strength is so important in the martial arts as well as for my back health, I'm wondering if there are some additional core exercises or movements I can add-on to help overall. I may be just as good off doing some BJJ movement drills that have a core focus, but wanted to ask around. Any more experienced folks have ideas or recommendations? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Tseng Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 F1 has a ridiculous amount of core exercises, you really don't need anymore 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hansen Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Do you have specific concerns? I work on a couple that my physical therapist gave me but those are to address a specific issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Clifton Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 Do you have specific concerns? I work on a couple that my physical therapist gave me but those are to address a specific issue.No specific concerns really...I just want to build a bulletproof core to prevent injuries and make my Jiu Jitsu better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Core strength is as important or even more so in gymnastics. You won't need additional work unless you have a specific health concern that needs addressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 In terms of straight-up strength I agree with the above, but its very useful for BJJ to include a sit-up variation to keep the motion of pulling your upper body up from your hips, particularly in guard.This won't be max strength work, leave foundation to take care of that. Guard sit-ups on a person or a bag are fine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Clifton Posted June 1, 2014 Author Share Posted June 1, 2014 Makes a lot of sense...thanks for the feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riku Calderón Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 In terms of straight-up strength I agree with the above, but its very useful for BJJ to include a sit-up variation to keep the motion of pulling your upper body up from your hips, particularly in guard.This won't be max strength work, leave foundation to take care of that. Guard sit-ups on a person or a bag are fine.This! My Jiu Jitsu is better than ever now that my core works. Pure F1. Only addition I do is kind of like kimura situps. Explosive style always. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Clifton Posted June 1, 2014 Author Share Posted June 1, 2014 Thank Riku. Sounds like the consensus is some additional sit-up type work but that's all that's necessary. I'll do that and focus more on the movement and additional flexibility (which is ridiculously needed!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Tseng Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Thank Riku. Sounds like the consensus is some additional sit-up type work but that's all that's necessary. I'll do that and focus more on the movement and additional flexibility (which is ridiculously needed!)To be honest, even then I still don't see the point. There are "sit-up" type work in F1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 To be honest, even then I still don't see the point. There are "sit-up" type work in F1Riku and Jon are recommending martial arts variations of sit ups as a drill for developing good reflexes/habits/movement patterns, not for strengthening. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Wheelock Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I think Foundation is probably enough. Turkish Get Up may be a good addition because it adds an external load.If you could TGU with bodyweight additional load, it'd be very hard for someone else to dominate you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Tseng Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Riku and Jon are recommending martial arts variations of sit ups as a drill for developing good reflexes/habits/movement patterns, not for strengthening.Once you've basically understand kinesiology, all movement patterns are the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Once you've basically understand kinesiology, all movement patterns are the sameOk. I'll see you at the next Olympics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Tseng Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Ok. I'll see you at the next Olympics.Since when did kinesiology become an olympic sport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Advice has been sought and received, I don't think we're going to be productive continuing this discussion Have a great day everyone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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