PROGRESSION

[Ian Legrow]

hELLO ALL. i AM JUST CURIOUS. i HAVE BEEN DOING THE VERY BASICS AND HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE GETTING STARTED WORKOUT. bUT MY QUESTION NOW IS, HOW DO I KNOW WHEN I SHOULD PROGRESS FROM THAT. i DON'T THINK I WILL EVER ACTUALLY STOP DOING THOSE EXERSICES, BUT I HAVE NO CLUE WHEN I SHOULD MOVE ON TO NEWER STUFF.

[LaughingTiger]

Hi, I think a little more information may be required from you. Based on some of your previous posts that I remember reading, I know you are working dead hangs and other static positions, but not sure of all that you are doing. Have you achieved the 30 or 60 sec times that you were pursuing?

Are you asking when is the right time to actually start to pursue a dead hang chin-up instead of just continuing to hold the dead hang. Or are you asking about progressions relative to handstands, planche, lever, etc.?

With a little more information, people can share what they did at a particular point in time.

For example, I believe I'm strong enough to hold a slightly less than horizontal back lever. However, mentally I am not really comfortable "flipping" on a bar or rings to get into the position. So to prepare myself I've just been getting into an inverted hang position on my rings at home. As I get more and more comfortable, I allow myself to play with skin the cat for a few moments before I swing back over.

For what I'm doing, strength is not an issue at all. When I'm in an inverted hang on the rings, I can actually pull myself so that the rings go to my armpits. So if progression is simply being strong enough, I should be doing more than I am at the moment.

Share a little more info and I think it'll make it easier for people more qualified than me to give you some advice.

[Ian Legrow]

Forgive me. Let me explain myself. I got int weight lifting when i was younger, bu never had a passion for it. From the time i was 11 to them time i was 21, i was on again off again. When i hit 21 i worked out steadily. In those ten years i got a LOT of information from my father (who helped me weight lift) as well as other people. As i got older i knew what was what, and knew what to look for if i was confused about something. Weight lifting is not really about form unfortunatley. ONe day i realized i wanted to learn gymnastics instead.

Unfortunatley, (because of what various people in MAssachusetts thought) i decided not to do it at a young age. I finally figured out who i was and what i like doing, and gymnastic trying was one of those things. However, I know absolutly nothing about any of it. Its all about form, control, patience. Not what i am used to. If you want to get stronger with weight lifting, u do anything to can to get ther. I never did steroids, but if i would always compromise form to feel stronger, or gain size.

Now, although i love doing this stuff, i have entereed a world that, not only do i know nothing about, but i have no one to show me anything. So i have to rely and advice i get from people i can't see and some youtube videos (which have really helped). This website has been awesome. But i guess where i am stuck is like, in weight lifting if you can do ten reps at 70lbs, then go up to 80. I guess i don't know where to go becasue i can already do all of those exercises for starting out, for 60s. I have my wife time me and she is very strict on form becasue she rides horses.

I guess i just dont know what i should start practicing next, when i should start it, and for how long. right now i am just trying to learn how to get form and strength. I wuld really liek to sign up for gymnastics one day, but for right now i cant. So i want to get my strenth up and my form flawless

I hope this is enough info. Sorry for the lengthy post

[LaughingTiger]

Many of us who were not gymnasts before coming to this site, came here pursuing a muscle up, handstand, planche, etc. So we've pretty much tailored our workouts to achieving those goals.

If your foundation strength is there, it's time to start exploring. You could start working on rolls, cartwheels, L-Sit, handstand, muscle up, v-sit.

It's possible that someone online might be willing to design a curriculum for you, but I don't think you really need it. Look up some A level skills you want to achieve somewhat quickly, and pick some higher level B or C skills that you want to build towards.

Hopefully as you work towards your skills, your financial or family situation will change where it will allow you to attend the gymnastics class you seek. There are a few places that are near my house, where I could train but my schedule won't allow. I believe the live instruction and better equipment than what I have in my house will help, but I know I can improve while I wait for circumstances to change.

In addition to this site, I find http://www.gymnasticswod.com to be very helpful. They have pictures and videos for gymnastics skills done on floors, rings and P-bars. It's something that might be of use to you.

Pick a skill and take your first step towards that skill. As you train you'll find the path isn't necessarily a linear path. You might think you're only training for planche, but learn that you're also training L-Sit and back lever in order to achieve your planche.