Deins Drengers Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 When it comes to injuries I feel myself as a fly paper.. My joints,tendons, ligaments are quite weak. Anytime I do something wrong or incorrect form for some time I get the signals pretty fast. I envy guys who can do what they want and be injury free. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkel Ravn Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I think you're having a case of 'the grass is always greener on the other side'. The rest of us deal with these issues as well, and have to force ourselves to go slow or get injured. If you attract injuries, you're probably doing too much too soon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deins Drengers Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 Ye, thats why I started Foundation and HS from PE1 aiming for the perfect form mastery. Not to rush anything too soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Mainente Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 tendon and connective tissue injuries are avoided with good progression that must look more over joints preparations and adaptation compared to pure strength gain that is not a sign of good joint preparation if you are not familiar with GST.The process Coach gives to us permit a strong adaptation for 2 bigs reasons. the first one is that the cycle you want to use are created to respect the time of joint adaptation . you need to know that after a stimuli the collagen is broken down while after 36-48 hours starts the synthesis of it. btw the % of synthesis compared to broken down is higher near the 8-9 week after a new stimuli with the same degree of leverage. introduce different variation or another variation with an higher jump then the previous will fall into more damaged connective tissue then the repaired.The second reason that for me was not know until the last 2 weeks (due to personal research for my specialist thesis ) is that after a wound there is important response by cytokine, integrin and more. all this response activate the EVGF , called the endothelial vascular growth factor. this quite important because is the only one GF that promotes the vasculogenesis in the collagen of type 1 and 2. exactly in the tendons and ligaments. how it does it' to complicated to be discusses here. but the most elevated vessels generation appears to be around the 7-8 weeks from the start of new leverage stimuli (supposing that we can manage only one repetition of it).this is a clear sign that tendons recover if you have a gradual approach and they become stronger if you have a gradual approach.For my opinion this is by far the most important reason of why foundations will speed up the rings series development. more vessels, more blood supply per unit of tendons, fast recover. the secret of why gymnasts become stronger fast, why they return from an injury so faster is exactly that. ideally this is not a secret, is a scientific approach to training. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Not to steal thunder from Ales great post here, but slight aside;Once you spend a few years investigating physical training, particularly in the context of injury treatment or martial arts, it becomes quite hard to shake the feeling that we really are quite incredibly fragile things! Perhaps oddly I have found this sense makes truly high level physical achevements seem even more impressive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Egebak Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Great post Alex! I am proud to be an "Alex" as well! You mentioned you researched about this topic for your specialist thesis. Would it be appropriate to ask for a link or something similar, if it can be worked out? This is out of pure interest. Best regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Mainente Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Search on Springer, but probably you need to pay, I have personal online access due to university convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deins Drengers Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 tendon and connective tissue injuries are avoided with good progression that must look more over joints preparations and adaptation compared to pure strength gain that is not a sign of good joint preparation if you are not familiar with GST.The process Coach gives to us permit a strong adaptation for 2 bigs reasons. the first one is that the cycle you want to use are created to respect the time of joint adaptation . you need to know that after a stimuli the collagen is broken down while after 36-48 hours starts the synthesis of it. btw the % of synthesis compared to broken down is higher near the 8-9 week after a new stimuli with the same degree of leverage. introduce different variation or another variation with an higher jump then the previous will fall into more damaged connective tissue then the repaired.The second reason that for me was not know until the last 2 weeks (due to personal research for my specialist thesis ) is that after a wound there is important response by cytokine, integrin and more. all this response activate the EVGF , called the endothelial vascular growth factor. this quite important because is the only one GF that promotes the vasculogenesis in the collagen of type 1 and 2. exactly in the tendons and ligaments. how it does it' to complicated to be discusses here. but the most elevated vessels generation appears to be around the 7-8 weeks from the start of new leverage stimuli (supposing that we can manage only one repetition of it).this is a clear sign that tendons recover if you have a gradual approach and they become stronger if you have a gradual approach.For my opinion this is by far the most important reason of why foundations will speed up the rings series development. more vessels, more blood supply per unit of tendons, fast recover. the secret of why gymnasts become stronger fast, why they return from an injury so faster is exactly that. ideally this is not a secret, is a scientific approach to training.Where do you learn all this ? I must find out aswell. They dont teach this stuff at my Uni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Egebak Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 2expensive4me. But thank you anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Laukkavaara Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 When it comes to injuries I feel myself as a fly paper.. My joints,tendons, ligaments are quite weak. Anytime I do something wrong or incorrect form for some time I get the signals pretty fast. I envy guys who can do what they want and be injury free. Yeah. I mean i did bench yesteday for the first time in like 1month = gg deltoid >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 It sounds cliche but patient and steady really does pay off big. Finish this rep. Finish this set. Finish this element. Finish this workout. Finish the next one. Finish the week. Finish the fortnight, the month, finish the year...?Little steps add up. Your warmup is quickly harder than your previous workout. And you make feeling good your new baseline not a passing high 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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