lisiflex Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I can do about 15 good form hanging leg raises from a high bar. Absolutely no swinging, straight legs, all the way up. But on stall bars, I can only manage about 4 to 5! Why is that? And how can I train these without stall bars? I have got a pull up bar at home, but that's it.I am really curious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Burnham Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 You aren't able to lean back to make the movement easier on highbar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Mainente Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 everytime you are doing high bar hll you have the possibility to lean backward over hands level as Daniel said. By doing that you are engaging the lats and the lift will be easier. stall bar puts a limit in your rom if you have poor flexibility in shoulders flexion and low strength on active hips compression. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McManamon Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 At home there are a lot of ways to make hanging leg raises more difficult, even if you don't have a spotter to hold your back in place. Lower only half way down, add small weights, make circles or perform them with 1 arm instead of two. Of course there is still no replacement for stall bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ching Yin Leung Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I have been using these:Lifeline Power Up Chin-up or you can DIY (Ross Enamait) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinom Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 If you have your bar hanging on a doorframe, just hang on one side with a neutral grip and have your back against the frame. That way you dont need a stall bar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Davies Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I'm not really a fan of 'free' hanging leg lifts. I only have rings, and the swinging element gets quite wild. They're really two completely separate exercises. Try L hangs. I find they engage the core in a similar way to stall bar hanging leg raises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Well you can do Eagle Grip leg lifts. Don't allow your body to hit vertical in the hang. Start in a slightly hollow hang and lift toes to bar. Repeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Rider Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I'm curious if you can mimic a stall bar by having a spotter - If so, how would you coach your spotter to do this/what would they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Burnham Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I'm curious if you can mimic a stall bar by having a spotter - If so, how would you coach your spotter to do this/what would they do?Yes. Support person at the lower back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaCavaliere Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Yes. Support person at the lower back.I thought it was upperback, to stop the shoulders from moving backwards? Lower only half way downThese are harder, but I can't understand why? Shouldn't full range of motion be harder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Not when everything below L amounts to rest time. V to L is good medicine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Burnham Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I thought it was upperback, to stop the shoulders from moving backwards? These are harder, but I can't understand why? Shouldn't full range of motion be harder?Yes. Sorry my mistake. Upper back is better. Really any where you can keep them from laying back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Rider Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Yes. Sorry my mistake. Upper back is better. Really any where you can keep them from laying back.Cool, that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Mainente Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 there is a good way to emulate the stall bar. if you have access to an high bar you ca use a wood bar (i suppose the distance from vertical poles is not too wide) held exactly behind your shoulders (you need to fix it with some tape). look to the photo. you need only to fix it, ideally when you try to push back to lift the legs you are pressing it to the vertical components and it's not needed a lateral strong support. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Stelling Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I have been using a squat rack with pullup handles at the top, and I place the barbell at shoulder blade height. Works pretty well, very similar to what Alex posted above except the rack I use allows you to place the actual barbell that high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hansen Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I'm kind of wondering what I'm going to do when I get to leg raises. I might be able to rig something up in the garage which would work during the warmer months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Davies Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I might be able to rig something up in the garage which would work during the warmer months.Hey, some of us have to workout in the snow! Uphill both ways..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hansen Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Hey, some of us have to workout in the snow! Uphill both ways..... Ha ha! I know, if I really wanted I could make it happen. When I come home from work I'm usually pretty cold already and the thought of going outside in the snow just doesn't appeal. Today the temp reached 5 degrees F or -15 C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Davies Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Ha ha! I know, if I really wanted I could make it happen. When I come home from work I'm usually pretty cold already and the thought of going outside in the snow just doesn't appeal. Today the temp reached 5 degrees F or -15 C.Yeah, ABH sucks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Kaminski Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Use a doorway pullup bar, and put your back against the closed door. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hansen Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Use a doorway pullup bar, and put your back against the closed door. I had a question about that. Is it necessary for your legs to be straight for this? My legs would have a pretty good bend in them if I was hanging from a doorway pullup bar. What kind of pullup bar would work for this? I've seen the ones that hook around the top of the frame but I don't think the door would close. Anything that can't be easily removed won't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Kaminski Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 True, I can only lower to 45 degrees; but, as Jon Douglas said, everything below 90 is rest. The bar is the threaded telescoping type. This exact one, actually. http://www.amazon.com/Sunny-Health-Fitness-Door-Chin/dp/B0016BNDXI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1392155125&sr=8-3&keywords=pullup+bar This setup is poor, especially at 6'2" and 215 pounds, but it is holding me over until I get stall bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Rider Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I have been using a squat rack with pullup handles at the top, and I place the barbell at shoulder blade height. Works pretty well, very similar to what Alex posted above except the rack I use allows you to place the actual barbell that high.That's clever. I'll be trying that. Not sure if the squat rack at my gym allows you to set the bar high enough, but we shall see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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