James Hall Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 This surprised me no end. I saw Gunther Von Hagen's Kürperwelten a.k.a. Bodyworks in Bochum, Germany today. Low and behold one of the whole body plastinates (a prosected cadaver essentially dipped in plastic/resin) was put in an L-sit position on a set of rings. Full PPT, no arched back and legs dead straight (oops). There was also a skeleton effectively in the same position next to it showing said PPT (no legs though)You can see all the portions of the muscles and everything. Unfortunately due to Anatomy/body donor laws and ethics I have no pictures. I highly recommend you see the exhibition anyway but this made it relevant to us. Mind you it is intense even after studying anatomy, the last part especially😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaël Van den Berg Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Nice! I will be visiting the exhibition in Amsterdam in January, with my osteopathy class. Really looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joakim Andersson Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Some photos from Google: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10_06/bodyL2310_558x650.jpg http://cdn1.vienna.at/2013/03/koerperwelten_ja.jpg http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Body+Worlds+Exhibition+Gunther+Von+Hagens+EHDPueoAav1l.jpg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hall Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 It doesn't hold much educational value for in depth anatomy studying but it is good to teach non anatomists a bit about the body. The skeletal muscle prosections were entirely superficial. I'm of mice opinion but I'm leaning towards the exhibition being more sensationalist then educational. I'd be interested to read what others who have seen it think. For example the different poses of the whole body plastinates really do not show what muscles play a role in that movement which was the justification the exhibition gives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaël Van den Berg Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I know what you mean, we're definitely not going for educational purposes, just for fun. Education-wise, we'll be doing actual dissections ourselves in the not-too distant future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keilani Gutierrez Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I know what you mean, we're definitely not going for educational purposes, just for fun. Education-wise, we'll be doing actual dissections ourselves in the not-too distant future... now THAT would be fun. i'd need to screw my head really well to my shoulders to deal with that afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hall Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share Posted December 25, 2013 Dissections for osteopathy?? Only the biggest Medical Schools in Australia give dissection opportunities to medical students and it's usually optional or for those who excel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaël Van den Berg Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I think it's pretty common here in the Netherlands for students of osteopathy, physical therapy and of course medicine to have some exposure to actual dissection. We'll be doing some of it ourselves and some of it will be demonstrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Wheelock Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 The cadaver needs to work on turning out the rings in his L-sit support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Kallio Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I remember getting/having to dissect a lightly used rabbit in Kinesiology. There was also the opportunity to see the faculty's cadaver once but undergraduates only looked at it. The rabbit was a great way to visualize the way things connected and lay except for the forearm/calf bits. Somehow studying the text books I had developed the idea that all my muscles were brightly coloured, clearly labled and meticulously cleaned. The rabbit had fascia and fat and everything was the same grey muddled mess, it was quite a shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaël Van den Berg Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 During my MSc studies (biology) I dissected the following animals (there may have been more but it's been a while): a small shark ( ~1 m long), a lamprey, various bird species, and a piglet. Very enlightening and - dare I say it - fun as well! I'm sure it won't be easy at first to work with a human cadaver, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hall Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 The best I've done is play with prosected cadavers. Everything except do the dissection. There's a body shortage throughout the country. There's a big school of thought too here that dissection is not the best method for learning anatomy until you're extremely advanced. Too much destruction when a professional can dissect everything around the facial nerve and show it in its entirety. There's not many people in the world who have that skill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaël Van den Berg Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I agree and I'm pretty sure us students will be limited to basic dissection/gross anatomy with the more advanced stuff being demonstrated by a professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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