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The Foundation Series - ?


Scott Pelton-Stroud
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Scott Pelton-Stroud

Hey there GB community. I'm new to the forums (and gymnastics), so please excuse my lack of knowledge and possible subforum-misplacement of my questions.

 

I'm interested in how long the Foundation series, as a whole, is estimated to take to complete. I understand that a) it takes a lot of time, patience, and hard work to build up to moves even so "fundamental" as the Planche and Front Lever and b) that each person will progress at a different pace. However, from what I understand, Foundation One takes about 1.5 years to complete from the very beginning to the very end.

 

Assuming that the 7 fundamental GST moves are mastered around the end of F4, and assuming that the 4 Foundation courses take similar amounts of time, am I correct to guess that it will take upwards of 6 years to achieve a decent Front Lever?

 

Like I said, I know it takes time to build the proper strength and coordination and mobility and such to achieve these fundamental GST moves, but I was under the impression that a fairly athletic person could build up to a Front Lever or Planche after about 2 years, maybe 3.

 

Understandably, I imagine no one wants to divulge too many specifics about the program, but I would greatly appreciate if a knowledgeable gymnast could point out any misconceptions I may have.

 

Thank you in advance for any help! 

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Daniel Burnham

This has been discussed before.  You may find you move more quickly through some sections.  For reference I had everything but side lever and was about 10 degrees away from manna after 3 years.  I trained The first 1.5 without much guidance and think I could have made faster progress if I had foundation from the beginning.  

 

I didn't train side lever much because it gave my shoulder problems.

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Tristan Curtis

Hi there! I'm too new to GST to estimate you a time figure. But I can confirm each person will have ease/difficulty with different elements.

 

Something else to keep in mind: many people move through the later (more advanced) elements faster than the early (more basic) elements. The first stages of F1 bring most people face-to-face with lack of strength/mobility that has developed over decades. You'll probably be working movements you never thought of, and the body will be a bit stubborn as it adjusts. In this stage, it may seem like F1 is taking forever, and may think that F1-4 will take 10 years!

 

But, by the time you get to F2, you have a very solid foundation for the Foundation series. The further along you go, the more prepared your body is, and the more it's about fine-tuning and building-on the movements you have already developed.

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Karri Kytömaa

Also note that a) you don't just have a straddle planche or FL by the end of foundation, you have it mastered by Coach's standards.

b) You are not restricted to just having one strength skill under your belt, you have all seven of them.

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Joshua Slocum

For a healthy adult of reasonable fitness, it's estimated that Foundation will take several years. It will take longer if you have any serious deficits.

Note that there's a big difference between what you can do and what you do for your everyday strength training. You'll be able to do a front lever far before you complete F4. Once you finish F4 the front lever will be so easy for you that you'll be doing sets of it as part of your strength training.

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Scott Pelton-Stroud

Thank you for all of your quality input!

 

It seems good to keep in mind that whole series will help you master each move, and that you will master seven of them. I'm glad to hear though that some people have found faster progress.

 

The foundation series seriously looks like a great investment of time, money, and effort. I hope to afford it soon!

 

Thanks again for the help.

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Hey all, I just found this forum and this was one of my main questions.  

 

NoHiddenCosts, thanks for asking the question so that the answers were here when I looked.

 

And to the rest of you, thanks for sharing your insight!

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by saying that further it will take less (eventually) you're saying that with the new elements you will try to reach the max you can and start the progression from where it seems you are?

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Joshua Slocum

by saying that further it will take less (eventually) you're saying that with the new elements you will try to reach the max you can and start the progression from where it seems you are?

Yes. You start with the first element in each progression, but if you can demonstrate mastery of an element (where the standards of mastery are laid out in the course) you can and should move on to the next element. 

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