Planche substitution

[Jordan Garcia]

Does anyone think that planche work could be replaced by straight arm press work?

[Jordan Garcia]

Exactly my point, if you pass through it on the way up why would you work on holding the planche position when u could just work on straight arm pressing eventually getting to a straight arm straight body press to handstand?

[Jordan Garcia]

Guess u have a point

Nevermind then

[Daniel Burnham]

Actually a straight arm press doesn't always Pass through Planche only a Planche press handstand would pass through. In fact you really don't want to Planche press Handstand. A good press handstand extends through the shoulders and then lifts the rest the body above them.

So to answer your question no a press handstand cannot replace planche training. A good Planche press handstand starts in Planche and goes to handstand. So if you don't already have the hold there's no way you could initiate a press.

[Redwan Haque]

I'd think you could replace static planche training with dynamic planche presses in tuck/adv tuck/ straddle and what not... once at that level. But the thing is even tuck planche presses are pretty damn hard, and the fastest way to get to that level is probably just static planche work. 

 

I've seen some guys at the gym I go to work straight arm leans in and out of a maltese like position, but with feet supported on a block... but that's probably not a good thing to mess around with at the level most of us are at.

[Daniel Burnham]

I'd think you could replace static planche training with dynamic planche presses in tuck/adv tuck/ straddle and what not... once at that level. But the thing is even tuck planche presses are pretty damn hard, and the fastest way to get to that level is probably just static planche work.

No. You should train the position to get the position. There are nuances that come with the static positions that you won't feel moving through them. Can it be used as accessory? Yes and it is! But you should not try to replace it based on some theory you have.

[Daniel Burnham]

It has been said again and again but people just don't want to hear it. There are no substitutes for hard work. People are great at justifying why they should be doing something more fun/easier/cool. It's the people who buckle down and do the work that reap the rewards. And this doesn't just apply to GST.

[Redwan Haque]

Well if your goal is a better static planche then no doubt that would be the way to go. Surely there'd be some benefit or another in training a full ROM planche press. Not sure how much easier or more fun it would be either... Irrelevant for me at this point anyway, as I cannot do a tuck planche press.

[Daniel Burnham]

Well if your goal is a better static planche then no doubt that would be the way to go. Surely there'd be some benefit or another in training a full ROM planche press. Not sure how much easier or more fun it would be either... Irrelevant for me at this point anyway, as I cannot do a tuck planche press.

Yes it would be beneficial for learning the planche press. But fo a good planche press you need both a planche and a handstand to be nailed down.

[Brian Li]

Well if your goal is a better static planche then no doubt that would be the way to go. Surely there'd be some benefit or another in training a full ROM planche press. Not sure how much easier or more fun it would be either... Irrelevant for me at this point anyway, as I cannot do a tuck planche press.

A planche press HS is harder than a static planche unless the TUT in the static planche is a lot longer than the press. 

Eccentric<Isometric<Concentric. So in other words, someone who can do a planche press HS will always be able to hold the static, but only having a static planche will not necessarily mean you can do a planche press HS (assuming that you can hold a HS too).