Bas de Smet Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Hello my fellow gymnasts, I'm training on my L-sit for a while now, and my maximum time is 30 seconds in L-sit, but I can't seem to get into a V-sit yet. Next to a L-sit I'm also capable of doing V-sit kicks. Can I train other factors next to L-sit and V-sit kicks in order to achieve a V-sit? If so, what can I train in order to attain my goal. Thanks in advance, Bas 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kutay Serova Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 V-sit lowering into L-sits? Or hanging leg raise negatives from the very top? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 L-Sit lifts to V-sit, as high as you can with a static hold at the top I would imagine/2c 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Personally I would recommend jumping right into manna training. V-sit is not a prerequisite for manna training, and you'll get it 'for free' along the way if you do good manna work. See this tutorial for some tips. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinom Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 You probably need to practice your active pike as well. Do you know if it is your core or triceps that prevents you from holding the V-sit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christoph Pahl Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Hip flexors and triceps are used quite a bit in a V-sit: You have to keep your arms straight, and it helps a lot to have a tight pike. However, this is about statics, and so these are still somewhat auxiliary muscles. The really decisive problem is pushing the hip forward - and this is done by the upper back and rear deltoids. The cited Manna progression got me from ~10 s L-sit to 60° preliminary V-sit (75° when straddled) in 3 months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinom Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Wow thats interesting stuff Christoph. I never had much issue pushing the hips forward, but my triceps and abdomen screamed the first times I ventured into the V-sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Li Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 V-sit requires strength from rear delts and all heads of the triceps as well as the abs and hip flexors. I got a nice V-sit without much specific training because I trained FL a lot and the strength in the arms and core transfers over to the V-sit. Manna training would definitely get you a V-sit and L-sit to V-sit kicks should get you a V-sit too eventually. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bas de Smet Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 I guess it is more likely that it is because of my pike flexibility than because of my tricep strength, because I'm still not very flexible and haven't trained a lot of flexibility yet. My strength, however, I'm training for quite a while now. I am going to train my pike flexibilty a lot more now and I'm going to jump into manna training as Hari_Seldon suggested. Anyways, thanks a lot guys! Didn't expect this many reactions and tips on my first post, I appreciate it a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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