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andiswf

hey!

 

in case anyone is interested:

 

just did my 4th victorian training today after the motivation from ali zahran and his "hint" of how to get into the position with a good tension in my still weekest part in the chain!!!! must train my scapula way more! then the victorian should improve?!

 

 

my thoughts about exercises for a victorian would need an update :P

watch?v=i71qbS9yh20

 

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Joshua Slocum

You're pretty close: that's a very impressive hold.

 

Nice dismount, too  :P

 

My approach would basically be to take standard maltese training, and do it upside down:

 

- victorian leans, focusing on the arm and scapula position

- victorians with a spot: have your spotter give sufficient assistance for you to hold good form

- victorian board presses (do with a spot or just negatives, if needed)

- scapula rows 

- front-lever rows with one arm straight?

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Piotr Ochocki

Yes, nice hold, and dismount a'la Danny Rodriguez ;)

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andiswf

Yes, nice hold, and dismount a'la Danny Rodriguez ;)

HAHA, he fell badly in doha 2008! ;)

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ZRX38

Nice Molinari at 0:05 !!

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andiswf

Nice Molinari at 0:05 !!

thx, only v-cross is 'easy'!

kip to v-cross, whats named after molinari, is more challenging ;)

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ZRX38

thx, only v-cross is 'easy'!

kip to v-cross, whats named after molinari, is more challenging ;)

I didnt know that!! V cross is still amazing 

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andiswf

...the correct shoulder-position is Xtremely hard!

(I mean NOT the shoulder hands alignement! thats easy for me as seen in the video above)

 

so my new victorian specific exercise for scapular retraction I will focus on for now looks like this:

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andiswf

unfortunetly i couldnt train for a week :/

(hurt my finger..)

I would need to stick more to my special exercise from above!

in the 2nd attempt my shoulder was better then before =)

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andiswf

my special exercise pays off =)

 

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Daniel Burnham

Good progress!  What exercises did you find to be the most helpful?  I have a guy in my gym who is looking to start training these.

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andiswf

thx!

in the first post on the buttom, I have put the link to a video called 'thoughts about getting a victorian' with some preps.

my fav exercise for now is the second video that is linked here "movie 860556".

however, I sent you a PM ;)

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Blairbob

 Are you trying to hold the maltese or just bounce threw it? Because it looks like you try to do a solid V-cross hold but you would only receive partial credit for both malts. You'll get value but lose execution.

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andiswf

thx for the advice!!!

 

to be honest, I did not pay attention to the 2secs rule of the COP!

also regarding the Vcross with the COP: it was not good! too high! but for the press into the maltese its easier that way.

I was just aiming for the victorian. it was the best i could do for now... i have to practice it a lot more ;)

 

in september/october I will work on fixing the perfect positions of the "non-victorian" holds. with long enough holds and in developing longer and longer sequences, what will build up a complete rings routine(for november) again. I will be bulking a lot then, haha!

 

Last year I went well with that planning. I think beeing the whole year on competative status would be too intense!

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andiswf

scapula exercise pays off, but I still need to focus on that one exercise ;)

from today:

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Joshua Slocum

Getting closer, nice work! 

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FREDERIC DUPONT

Nice catch of your fall there. :)

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andiswf

today only some reps:

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Brian Li

That's very nice! I can see that your victorians have improved. Are you also locking the arms or bending slightly in the victorian? I know Danny Rodrigues and that other guy bends their arms slightly because it's so hard.

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andiswf

That's very nice! I can see that your victorians have improved. Are you also locking the arms or bending slightly in the victorian? I know Danny Rodrigues and that other guy bends their arms slightly because it's so hard.

Thx!

regarding to the bend arms: the inner rotation  is massive and holding/pressing the rings towards the body is strong! ;)

but what seems to be the key is to add (to all this from above) the right scapula position..for me, thats the weekest part of the chain!

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Joshua Naterman

Hey man, that's a noticeable improvement. Keep it up! Good luck and safe training to you :)

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andiswf

thx a lot!

By now, I learned to be patient! so only 1-2x ring strength/week with enough regeneration and tons of scapula exercises and hours of stretching!

 

btw thx for all the youtube-subscribers. got more in the last day than all the time before ;)

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Joshua Naterman

thx a lot!

By now, I learned to be patient! so only 1-2x ring strength/week with enough regeneration and tons of scapula exercises and hours of stretching!

 

btw thx for all the youtube-subscribers. got more in the last day than all the time before ;)

NOW you're on the real path to success :)

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andiswf

as some wanted to see the advanced dream machine in action, where you can choose the assisted weigth:

some time ago my best limit was 12,5kg help.

today I only tried the dream machine at the end of my conditioning...last set was just until I couldnt do any more :P

7.5kg was technically still "ok". 10kg was easy cheesy!

once more I realised, that I need to work on fixing the scapula!

so for now, no more victorians for 2-3 weeks!

 

 

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andiswf

I just had to try some even on dismount day :P

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