Saito Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Hi there, does anyone know how good are these? I haven't done them much before, just pulls & regular chins.I've noticed there are some variations to these, like, some do them shoulder-width apart, and when I tried them, I did them with both my hands together, but not overlapped of course; so which variation would be best or easiest/harder? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saito Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 Oh and I also forgot: how much different are they from regular chinups and pullups, like, what different (if any) muscles do they work and what other parts. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saito Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 But the kind of chinup I'm referring to are like the ones this guy does sometime into the video: They are like that, with your body facing parallel to the bars or bar, raising your head over the bar on each side of your face, or on each shoulder, if that makes any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 A mixed grip is somewhat similar to the way you pullup when doing rope climbs if you are using your feet. I used to have the boys or myself hang on the bar, reach to a mixed grip, pullup, have the other hand reach, and do a pullup on the other side. It's just another way to do pullups. You get a mix of the underhand grip, which is generally easier to do than an overhand grip. That's it. I engage the pec and bicep a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saito Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Yeah, the only thing I don't like is that if I don't hold myself tightly, I begin to swing as I go up, or lose balance, because you're sideways when you do this.What do you think about neutral grip chinups, done shoulder-width apart, compared with regular chinups? What do these work more? Somehow I feel chinups don't really work my biceps at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Neutral grip pullups will not work your biceps more than undergrip pullups or "chin-ups." What muscles certain grips of pullups will work really shouldn't be a big concern. You'll feel if you start working levers or wide arm as does does much straight arm work of supporting, planching, even HS. Currently Wide Arm L pullups make my biceps scream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saito Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Neutral grip pullups will not work your biceps more than undergrip pullups or "chin-ups." What muscles certain grips of pullups will work really shouldn't be a big concern. You'll feel if you start working levers or wide arm as does does much straight arm work of supporting, planching, even HS. Currently Wide Arm L pullups make my biceps scream.I can't do any levers yet, I suck at that So you saying wide grip chinups work your biceps more than close-gripped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I was working wide grip pullups and it was the wide grip L pullups that made my biceps scream while I was down in LA during the holidays. I didn't have access to much but the Iron Gym my brothers got. Normal L pullups and I don't really feel it in my biceps. If I do wide arms, I do; and with the wide grip L pullups there is quite a bit of load I'm sure. On the rings you can do pullups where instead of a neutral grip you pull with the ring circle facing forward and backward so that it is above your bicep. Your elbows will point and splay out sideways. It might be called the Bulgarian pullup in the book. I think it was called that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saito Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 I still can't do those L pulls or chins! Haven't even tried them actually.I don't have rings eitherSo just this: does a wider than shoulder width chinup work your biceps more on not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saito Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 Interesting. So why do so-called experts say close grip works them more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris H Laing Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 so-called experts I think you just answered your own question. Close grip chinups work the bicep in kinda the same way that a barbell curl does, which is probably why the so-called experts say they work the bicep more, but putting yourself in such a disadvantaged leverage position, such as a wide grip l chinup, is going to be way more work on all the muscles involved than a close grip chinup would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saito Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 so-called experts I think you just answered your own question. Close grip chinups work the bicep in kinda the same way that a barbell curl does, which is probably why the so-called experts say they work the bicep more, but putting yourself in such a disadvantaged leverage position, such as a wide grip l chinup, is going to be way more work on all the muscles involved than a close grip chinup would be.lol, alright. But I still haven't tried and probably can't do the L-type exercises, like chins or pulls. I'll just do regular wide grip chins. They feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I am simply following the pullup progression as listed in the GB program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saito Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 I actually tried and found out I can do L sit chins and pulls, like 8 chins and 6 pulls. These are just that you straighten your legs right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanPS Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Yes legs are extended and horizontal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodyguard Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 When I do pull ups with the Rings than I work my arms harder, and special my biceps, than with chin ups.Has anybody the same experiences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodyguard Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 When I do pull ups with the Rings than I work my arms harder, and special my biceps, than with chin ups.Has anybody the same experiences?up :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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