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Straddle Press Handstand & Endo Roll Handstand
Ian Thomas 291884 posted a topic in MovementBackground/Context: I have two gymnasts who have been having difficulty progressing in regards to the Straddle L-sit Press on Parallel Bars and the Endo Roll Press on Floor. They are very talented gymnasts, but without being able to conquer these skills they are capping out score wise and I know these deficits will haunt them later on in their careers if I ignore them. They are both able to press with straight arms and legs from a Straddle L-sit on Parallel Bars, but the Straddle L-sits are poorly held and would result in a double -.3 deduction from pressing from a poorly held position. I have gone to great lengths to work on their active and passive pancake flexibility, passive and active hamstring flexibility, and scowered mannaweb.net, drillsandskills.com, and literature for drills/advice on how to address this issue, but they still seem to hold the Straddle L-sit with feet below the bars. I recently read an article regarding the importance of core stabilization in active hamstring flexibility, which I want to try and implement, but if this fails I think I'd have nothing else left to try. (http://shiftmovementscience.com/how-a-gymnasts-tight-hamstrings-can-really-being-a-core-control-problem/) General Information: They can both can press with straight arms from Straddle L-sit, but Straddle-L is poorly held (feet below Pbars) They both have a decent passive straddle, about 135 degrees, probably about 100-110 degrees actively. They both have a decent active pancake, can lower down by themselves to just inches off the floor, but can't flatten their back yet (Assuming related to tight adductors/gracilis or adhesions between gracilis & semimembraneous as mentioned by Kit Laughlin) I have done seated straddle leg lifts for a while, but am thinking there may be an issues with core engagement for posterior pelvic tilt (PPT) to hold the legs up during the straddle L. Questions/Comments: 1) Is this simply a matter of staying the course and continuing to work active/passive flexilibility and holding straddle L on piroulettes? 2) Are there more effective drills/conditioning regimes beside seated straddle leg lifts, supine straight leg stretch, doing pancakes, pancake arch ups, and holding straddle Ls? 3) Are there some muscle groups I am ignoring strength/flexibility wise or could there be a programming issue? I would be appreciative of any and all advice on the matter! I willing to go to whatever lengths to see this goal accomplished, so no advice goes unappreciated!