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The Cooling Glove - low core temp for performance

Started by Cole Dano, August 30, 2012 · 12 Replies · 4,219 Views

Cole Dano

I've been hearing about it for a while, this looks very promising!

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2012/augu ... 82912.html

But the glove's effects on athletic performance didn't become apparent until the researchers began using the glove to cool a member of the lab – the confessed "gym rat" and frequent coauthor Vinh Cao – between sets of pull-ups. The glove seemed to nearly erase his muscle fatigue; after multiple rounds, cooling allowed him to do just as many pull-ups as he did the first time around. So the researchers started cooling him after every other set of pull-ups.

"Then in the next six weeks he went from doing 180 pull-ups total to over 620," said Heller. "That was a rate of physical performance improvement that was just unprecedented."

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jl5555

Calling Slizzardman.....

Cole Dano

He's in his laboratory

But it is true that elevated body temperature has a limiting effect on performance

Quick Start Test Smith

This is very interesting. I imagine that there is a fine line between cooling down that increases recovery and that hinders it. As far as Kelly Starrett and the famous Gary Reinl are concerned, RICE is the devil because of the cooling and lack of movement in the lymphatic system. I wonder what the walking encyclopedias and resident experts think about this?

Nic Branson

Too much cold is bad. Here the heat level is being controlled in a way to slow the metabolic fatigue process of the muscles during activity. Cyclists have been using something similar for years. Practical application is a bit of an issue for most of us.

Rice is still crap and inhibits Healing more than anything else IMO.

EDIT: Also note the vacuum as it increases circulation. That part is crucial.

Joshua Naterman

Yes, have to offset the vasoconstriction from the cooling. Will try to look at more of what has been posted in this thread but I've seen this device mentioned before. Cool stuff! Pun intended.

Joshua Naterman

So, this probably will not have a similar effect on high intensity exercise UNLESS temperature is a regulator of EC uncoupling and if so then... holy shit captain. Holy shit.

That would be an awesome, and cheap, experiment for them to run. Test for JP-1 and 2 in control groups and a group that uses the glove between sets. If there's a difference... training just changed forever.

Joshua Naterman
Joshua Naterman said:
So, this probably will not have a similar effect on high intensity exercise UNLESS temperature is a regulator of EC uncoupling and if so then... holy shit captain. Holy shit.

That would be an awesome, and cheap, experiment for them to run. Test for JP-1 and 2 in control groups and a group that uses the glove between sets. If there's a difference... training just changed forever.

I do not think this to be the case though, because I have run a test protocol that absolutely generates enormous amounts of heat and managed to bypass apparent EC uncoupling quite easily while performing high intensity work with a very simple technique (if it can even be called that), but if this thing could further enhance THAT work... well, I'm interested even more!

Edit: also excited to look up the studies on bench press, pull ups, etc. Also, if you watch the video... dude's pull ups were garbage. I know, I know. Unrelated haterate... but what can I say, he's barely going halfway down.

Quick Start Test Smith
Joshua Naterman said:

Edit: also excited to look up the studies on bench press, pull ups, etc. Also, if you watch the video... dude's pull ups were garbage. I know, I know. Unrelated haterate... but what can I say, he's barely going halfway down.

I was thinking the same thing. Lol!

Joshua Naterman

After sleeping on it and having crazy dreams I realized a number of things. Among them, that this needs to be tested alongside creatine supplementation to see whether the effects are synergistic or not.

Studies on Creatine show a similar effect on multi set work capacity, nearly identical in fact. If they stack, that could be an enormous increase in anabolic signaling.

I haven't seen any data on extended studies or on lean mass gain comparisons, so it is way too soon to start putting on our brown pants for this. I haven't seen all the research though, just the obesity patients (who had significant positive improvements in a whole bunch of health markers vs obese controls who did not use the device while walking at 80% of max heart rate), bench, re-warming artificial coma patients (general anesthesia), and a synopsis of the pull ups. I

have not seen anything regarding lean mass gain comparisons, which would be nice to know since apparently there was a 20% gain in 1RM bench press strength in 10 weeks. I think that's in experienced bench pressers, but it's hard to tell. Not thrilled with how the abstracts are laid out and am probably getting a NCSA membership to read the full articles.