Philip Chubb Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I had a question concerning tumbling and aerial safety. I generally do a lot of tumbling but really want to feel safer in the air because I feel like this will give more confidence when I am training. I was wondering what kind of safety drills you all use in the event of a crashed skill. Do you prefer to breakfall more like judo (slapping the mat) or roll out of the skill if possible? Do any of the coachs or martial artist or just general tumblers have any advice in this area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seiji Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Breakfalling is very useful to learn, but really hard to use when learning flips. The safest thing to do is learn about each skill you try because typical breakfalls won't always work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Chubb Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 That is true and I train at a great gymnastics gym so I am learning under the eye of a coach but I am still interested in it. Being safe in the air would be helpful toward eliminating a great portion of the fear factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexX Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Rolling out of a skills is preferred when things go wrong because normally in tumbling there is already rotational momentum (much greater than in judo), not the best environment for a break fall. Having a proper dive roll saved my neck many times in tumbling.The biggest safety technique you can learn in tumbling is staying tight and not bailing on skills. This is where the majority of injuries/crashes come from: bailing on skills (do more drills before trying them to avoid this) and bailing on skills with a loose body (that one is a recipe for disaster). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Chubb Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 That is great advice. I have never missed a skill badly that I didn't bail on. Maybe landed in an awkward position but not a damaging one. I am thinking I will stry learning how to do a front tuck to a roll and a 3/4s back. Though I feel the second one may work because the floor is sprung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reveridian Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Rolling out of a skills is preferred when things go wrong because normally in tumbling there is already rotational momentum (much greater than in judo), not the best environment for a break fall. Having a proper dive roll saved my neck many times in tumbling.The biggest safety technique you can learn in tumbling is staying tight and not bailing on skills. This is where the majority of injuries/crashes come from: bailing on skills (do more drills before trying them to avoid this) and bailing on skills with a loose body (that one is a recipe for disaster).This is very well said!You can, of course, still sustain an injury by doing a skill badly BUT the majority of injuries do come from bailing. When I teach a skill the first thing I teach before I let them actually do the skill is how to get out of it safely. Mostly it is rolling and simple things like not chucking random appendages all over the place. i.e. arms in, chin down etc.Just remember that perfect practice makes perfect and if you are not completely confident when going in to do a full skill then you simply aren't ready to do that skill. You need to drill, drill, drill all the parts of the skill and you should be fully confident and know exactly what you are doing.Good luck mate,Rev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Chubb Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 Sounds like another one for rolling. That is also the idea I thought of. To learn to crash the skill first and then try learning to do it. Thank you all for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seiji Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 One time I tried a front rollout on grass but freaked out at the last second. My feet touched the floor first but I was in a pike position, with my head very low. I had to immediately roll. Saved my skin. I could have done it but that scare in the air was enough to stop me if I hadn't actually put my feet out.Somehow develop your reaction time? lolSpending a lot of time on basic flips will help you out. I close my eyes when tumbling and work entirely on awareness and timing, so if something goes wrong I know it's gonna happen before it actually does, giving me more time to react anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Chubb Posted July 19, 2011 Author Share Posted July 19, 2011 Thanks! I might try some trampoline drills with my eyes closed and see how that works. I like to hand balance with closed eyes occasionally so areial awareness with eyes closed should be around there somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reveridian Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Thanks! I might try some trampoline drills with my eyes closed and see how that works. I like to hand balance with closed eyes occasionally so areial awareness with eyes closed should be around there somewhere!Do not close your eyes. That is just dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seiji Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I didn't mean to tell you to try and close your eyes, it's just natural for me lolPreferably keep your eyes open. That's one more sense which can help you out when things go bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Chubb Posted July 20, 2011 Author Share Posted July 20, 2011 Haha I only meant very very basic skills such as seat drops and the like. You will not see me closing my eyes on any skill that goes higher than half a foot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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