Zac Rhyne Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Calculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 My vertical is way better than the calculator thinks it should be on the squat section. I don't snatch so that one doesn't help lol!It thinks I should be getting a 22.36 inch vertical because I'm 225 lbs and squat 300 ATG. My vertical is more like 28 inches. I want to add a foot to that over the next two years, and I will, but I'm just saying... that's way off lol! Just a FYI!The calculator didn't work when I clicked so I viewed source, found the formula which is (Full ROM Olympic squat weight in lbs *.43)/bodyweight. Multiply that number by 39. That's your predicted vertical in inches.The squat formula would just be reversed to predict your needed full ROM squat. So take your desired vertical, in this case 40, divide by 39, and then multiply that number by your bodyweight. Now divide that number by .43! That gives me 536.67 lbs squat recommendation for a 40 inch vertical. Certainly attainable, but I think highly over-estimated. I agree, it's a neat page. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Interestingly, according to the snatch calculator only a bodyweight power snatch is necessary to have a 39 inch vertical. I'm not an expert on vertical jumps just yet, but it seems like there is a laughably huge difference between what you need to squat and what you need to snatch!I think this may be fairly inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blairbob Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Numbers are weird. I do not think they take into account individual's size. Josh is 6'2 or 3 and I'm just over 5'. That is quite the difference in tendon lengths and other things. According to this, I need a 315 OHS to have a VJ of 32" but according to my HBBS and power snatch I should be jumping 39 and 35". There is probably a baseline athlete size they are taking into accordingly. Maybe standard american height and weight? 5'9 180? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I would be under the impression that the calculator would be 'off' for above-the-waist strength athletes. But I find it a good indicator for lower body dominant (or equal lower+upper body development) athletes like sprinters, Olympic weight lifters, shot putters. I found it calculated my 36 inch vertical quite accurately. In addition The HIGH CATCH Power Snatch is a high catch, not a above parallel power snatch, but much more a quarter squat catch. And a quarter squat catch for a bodyweight snatch is fairly impressive for a non-competitive lifter.I also encourage all to consider Kelly Baggett (of Faster, Higher, Sports) recommendation of the calculator. Please note that a 300 lbs squat for a 225 pounder would fall most likely under an untrained squatter and the calculator would be off for that. But it would indicate that you would be able to up your squat fairly quickly to near 400 with some focused training on that movement.Most untrained squatters will be jumping far higher than their squat would indicate. The calculator helps those who want to increase that jumping movement through Olympic lifting training styles. IIt doesn't even take focused training, which I take to mean focusing on improving the squat and backing off a bit on other things to allow more squat work. It just takes consistency and clean reps. That is something that I will be clearing up as time goes on, because that's one of the easiest practices to take the wrong way. For example, 4 days a week I do 1 set of 3 reps of 230, ATG, with a 3-5 second pause at the bottom. That's nowhere near my 3RM, and yet I keep getting stronger. It actually energizes me for my WODs WHILE giving me steady improvements in all-around lower body athletic ability. It's pure neural adaptation. In 2 years or so I'll be doing the same thing with 350, at the very least, and that's if I take things very, very slow and only add 5 lbs a month on average.I agree that a BW high snatch like that would be pretty sweet. I've never snatched, so I don't know what I can do. I know it's over 135 lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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