tkd4life Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'll turn 24 (female) in about 2 months . I attempted a back tuck and injured my knee. I landed off the crash matt.I'm still motivated. They're both personal goals to learn. A back tuck represents freedom and a kip up is a fast way of getting up? Is 24 indeed too old to learn a kip up or back tuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 What?No.Provided you aren't going from 24 years on the couch to trying to back tuck or kip up... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Sommer Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'll turn 24 (female) in about 2 months . I attempted a back tuck and injured my knee. I landed off the crash matt.I'm still motivated. They're both personal goals to learn. A back tuck represents freedom and a kip up is a fast way of getting up? Is 24 indeed too old to learn a kip up or back tuck? It sounds as though both the physical preparation and technical preparation were inadequate. Yours in Fitness,Coach Sommer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Egebak Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 What would be a good physical standard before mastering back tuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaël Van den Berg Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Nothing substantial to add except that I did my first backflips when I was 30 (I'm now 40). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Nordberg Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Another geezer here insulted by the notion of 24 being too old, did my first round off back handspring in 30 years the other day, at 41... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 No, 24 isn't too old. I'm 36. I rarely do them unless I'm goaded to or want to do them though. Mainly because I'm picky about the surface I do them on and it isn't worth the risk anymore outside of a gymnastics gym.More than likely you just had a bad landing and tweaked something. Generally for tumblers I prefer:Backward roll down wedge/mat and on floor. A bent arm back extension would be nice as well. Bridge kickover. Ideally this is on floor but I'm ok with just down a wedge. Mainly for a tumbler (aka rec/cheer) I want them to know the feeling of a bridge kickover. It would also be great if they can do a back bend kickover or back walkover. However, if they are a TrampNTumbling kid, they must have a walkover and the same can be said about an artistic gymnast, be they USAG JO or Excel.Backwalkover over a barrel leading to backhandspring.I prefer back handspring before standing back. It gives a bailout option. There have been a few times, i've hit a dead spot in a floor (where there is no board/spring) and ended up having to backhandspring so as not to land on my head.Other drills would include back pullover on trampoline. Backward roll off a P-block (lay on block, head off edge. Sit up in pike and lean back and rollover in tuck/pike).For some rough metrics that I don't think are exactly necessary to perform the maneuvers, I prefer an individual have a vertical jump 10-15% of their bodyheight for a backhandspring and 20-25% for a standing back. This was just based on the vertical jump test I would take of tumblers and gymnasts who were seeking to or could perform either exercise. One tumbler I remember, probably 11 and railthin could only jump about 6 or 7". She was limber enough to do a standing backhandspring but it was pretty weak.Most of the girls I tested who could do standing backs, generally VJ between 15-18" but bare in mind they were preteen/young teens and around 5' tall give or take a few inches (most were under 5').An easier and faster way of getting back up is a backward shoulder roll. About the only time a kip up is faster is if you can do that stunt maneuver of jumping back on to your back and kipping up. Doesn't look as cool though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkd4life Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Thank you all for the advice. I'ts uplifting knowing age isn't a factor instead fitness and mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Koman Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 41, learned back tuck last year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Abernethy Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'll be double your age in a few months - people my age need to stop being babies, not your age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Koliopoulos Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I am 21, me and my friend learnt back tucks on the ground in one hour. So you are not too old. My advice is, use a tramp to first get used to the motion and then, when you are comfortable, simply transfer to a gymnastics floor. Have somebody spot you. It is mainly just overcoming the fear of falling. Make sure you are jumping high enough. Initially, nearly everbody underrotates slightly due to opening the tuck too early. But, as soon as you overcome the fear of backflipping, you will be able to correct this fast. When comfortable on gym floor, move to concrete/hard surface. It definitely helps swinging your arms to assist and having a strong jump. I also thought like you to begin with, but my mates were always warming um for our GST with multiple flips and twists and that motivated me, I didn't want to be the noob of our training group ;D In just over a week I was training double front and double back on tramp and back tucks on floor every second training. Fun stuff! To be frank, its all in your head, you just need the balls to do it Good luck! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkd4life Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 J0X Positive vibes. Thank you ...yes the fear is huge. Oh man it's a drag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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