30 seconds tuck planche good form?

[saiyaman]

Hi everyone,

 

is this good form? It was my max hold 2 weeks ago.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es_pYfTQfy8

 

Thanks

[Cody Ward]

Needs more protraction.

[DiTi]

i think its good form

and it has enought protraction in my opinion

[saiyaman]

Thank you guys, I will focus a lot on my protraction and good straight arm lean.

[ADRIANO FLORES CANO]

Stop your video at 0:03. Good protraction and hollow.

 

Stop now at 0:30. No protraction, flat back (no hollow).

 

Spend more time on planche leans, it will learn to you how engage your scapula in a easy leverage position compared to tuck planche that is more advanced. I'd say that you're not prepared to do them.

 

Good luck!

[Colin Macdonald]

Be sure to work them on the floor as well. Parallettes tend to give a false sense of strength.

[saiyaman]

Stop your video at 0:03. Good protraction and hollow.

 

Stop now at 0:30. No protraction, flat back (no hollow).

 

Spend more time on planche leans, it will learn to you how engage your scapula in a easy leverage position compared to tuck planche that is more advanced. I'd say that you're not prepared to do them.

 

Good luck!

Do you think it is possible to learn planche by only doing planche leans to the point one is able to lean enough so the feet lift of the floor?

[Cody Ward]

Do you think it is possible to learn planche by only doing planche leans to the point one is able to lean enough so the feet lift of the floor?

I know some people say it's possible and recommend training it that way.

[DiTi]

no its not possible planche is not only about strength its 70-80% strength and 20-30%balance also u need to have strong joints and tendons and those are some things u cant build by doing only planche leans u always need to progress to harder variations 

[Cody Ward]

no its not possible planche is not only about strength its 70-80% strength and 20-30%balance also u need to have strong joints and tendons and those are some things u cant build by doing only planche leans u always need to progress to harder variations 

Do you have a planche? Planche hardly takes any balance at all. The balance required isn't comparable to a simple HS in my opinion.

Perhaps you've been doing your planche leans wrong. Try doing them with perfect form and your hands facing backwards and tell me how your joints feel.

Technically, if you lean far enough, your feet will come off the ground at some point. Think of it like a see-saw, the other half won't come off the ground unless there's enough weight on the other side.

I know of several people who have achieved a planche (at least a straddle) just by doing leans. So yes, it is possible, but probably a bit harder.

[DiTi]

yes i can hold a straddle planche for 10seconds with good form 

and when doing planche leans you will get enought strength to hold a tucked planche you will never be able to get your feet off the ground and hold a full planche. but you can allways try to if you want and if you ever get the full planche please let me know because im sure that its not going to happend

you need to search more and understand that planche position and the strength needed to hold it

also when doing planche leans its not good for a beginer to place his hands backwards because it can easlly cause injury and his biceps tendons are not strong enought in my opinion you should first learn the planche with your hands facingforward and than you can work on turning your hands backwards. the goal here is to be able to hold a planche on the rings. also you will never build enought lower back strength to hold a full planche by only doing planche leans 

[Mikkel Ravn]

DiTi, I value your input, but could you please drop the 'u' abbreviations and use just a bit of punctuation. You are making your own posts way too difficult to process, for the people you are trying to communicate with.

Ok, grumpy old man rant over/

[DiTi]

DiTi, I value your input, but could you please drop the 'u' abbreviations and use just a bit of punctuation. You are making your own posts way too difficult to process, for the people you are trying to communicate with.

Ok, grumpy old man rant over/

sorry i just like to type quickly and for those who dont know u=you i wont repat the same mistake  sorry again if i caused any problems

[saiyaman]

Do you have a planche? Planche hardly takes any balance at all. The balance required isn't comparable to a simple HS in my opinion.

Perhaps you've been doing your planche leans wrong. Try doing them with perfect form and your hands facing backwards and tell me how your joints feel.

Technically, if you lean far enough, your feet will come off the ground at some point. Think of it like a see-saw, the other half won't come off the ground unless there's enough weight on the other side.

I know of several people who have achieved a planche (at least a straddle) just by doing leans. So yes, it is possible, but probably a bit harder.

Do you know what routine and/or cycle they used to learn straddle with leans?

[saiyaman]

yes i can hold a straddle planche for 10seconds with good form 

and when doing planche leans you will get enought strength to hold a tucked planche you will never be able to get your feet off the ground and hold a full planche. but you can allways try to if you want and if you ever get the full planche please let me know because im sure that its not going to happend

you need to search more and understand that planche position and the strength needed to hold it

also when doing planche leans its not good for a beginer to place his hands backwards because it can easlly cause injury and his biceps tendons are not strong enought in my opinion you should first learn the planche with your hands facingforward and than you can work on turning your hands backwards. the goal here is to be able to hold a planche on the rings. also you will never build enought lower back strength to hold a full planche by only doing planche leans 

I can hold a back lever with pronated grip. Would it benefit my planche training (joints and tendons too) if I work on my back lever with supinated grip? I can hold a one legged back lever that way.

[DiTi]

yes back lever training WILL HELP ALOT to get better at planche work on getting a full back lever and you will make progress much faster with the planche

[Jon Douglas]

I can hold a back lever with pronated grip. Would it benefit my planche training (joints and tendons too) if I work on my back lever with supinated grip? I can hold a one legged back lever that way.

Correct planche leans will help you far more, certainly for a floor planche

[saiyaman]

Thank you pals, this information is really helpful.

[Brian Li]

Do you have a planche? Planche hardly takes any balance at all. The balance required isn't comparable to a simple HS in my opinion.

There is some amount of balance required for planche. Obviously the balance requirement is nothing compared to a HS. 

 

 

yes i can hold a straddle planche for 10seconds with good form 

and when doing planche leans you will get enought strength to hold a tucked planche you will never be able to get your feet off the ground and hold a full planche. but you can allways try to if you want and if you ever get the full planche please let me know because im sure that its not going to happend

you need to search more and understand that planche position and the strength needed to hold it

also when doing planche leans its not good for a beginer to place his hands backwards because it can easlly cause injury and his biceps tendons are not strong enought in my opinion you should first learn the planche with your hands facingforward and than you can work on turning your hands backwards. the goal here is to be able to hold a planche on the rings. also you will never build enought lower back strength to hold a full planche by only doing planche leans 

This is not true. Your feet will lift off the ground and into a planche once you lean far enough. A planche lean with maximum lean is very close to a full planche. Planche leans can also build up the joints and tendons because the leverage decreases as you lean more. I'm not saying that you should only do planche leans to achieve a full planche, but to say planche leans can't build up to a planche or your feet will never lift off is false.