Fluidity Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I've had some problems in getting enough protein in my daily diet for some time now, and am thinking of using whey protein shakes during meals. Would anyone advise protein shakes during meals if you don't get enough protein from natural food sources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Portillo Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 How often are you eating and what are your main sources? You should know that having protein shakes with your meal will spike your insulin and is only desirable post-workout; it isn't necessary to have it WITH your meal. I find following Joshua's Perfect Workout Nutrition allows me to get enough protein in just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Myers Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 How often are you eating and what are your main sources? You should know that having protein shakes with your meal will spike your insulin and is only desirable post-workout; it isn't necessary to have it WITH your meal. I find following Joshua's Perfect Workout Nutrition allows me to get enough protein in just fine.That's not necessarily true, it depends on whats in the shake Whey is certainly absorbed quickly, but mixing it with spinach leaves and some berries shouldn't be too harmful. +1 on the workout nutrition. If you aren't following that already OP, look into it. Also, what do you mean you have problems getting enough protein? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluidity Posted February 3, 2013 Author Share Posted February 3, 2013 Wait so if whey can spike my insulin, can I just take casein protein which usually releases slowly?And as for my meals I don't always get the 30 grams of protein i need in each onE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Myers Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Wait so if whey can spike my insulin, can I just take casein protein which usually release slowly?And as for my meals I don't always get the 30 grams of protein i need in each on.Don't worry about whey spiking your insulin, but yes casein would be better for non-workout times. You don't need to worry about a large percentage of your protein coming from whey or casein. In fact, that is preferable to eating low quality supermarket meat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin de Jesus Ponce Robaldino Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 GOMAD!!!!! well probably not in full... but 1/2 GOMAD would be a good idea... just remember to use 1% milk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Chubb Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 You have to be willing to accept a higher bodyfat with the gallon of milk a day diet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluidity Posted February 3, 2013 Author Share Posted February 3, 2013 I see what you guys mean, but as for gaining body fat when trying to gain lean muscle, I'm currently going from a maintenance diet to a weight gaining diet. Is there anything I should make sure I do so I don't accumulate too much body fat?I want to go from the 157-160ish weight range to 180, over the coming months, and high vegetables, meat, and dairy intake will be the main focus in my diet. Anything wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Naterman Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 No, just spread it out into more small feedings throughout the day and make sure you get the carbs you need. Should work out to around 50% of your total daily calories. 20-30g of protein every 2-3 hours, and always have carbs and fats right there with your protein, preferably from whole foods. Don't worry about the insulin spiking business. Insulin is how our bodies absorb foods, without it we die. Whey spikes insulin when consumed in isolation, but when you're having it mixed in with whole foods things are quite a bit different. I personally use Matrix 5.0 for non-workout protein (it's a slower-releasing blend), and I use whey concentrate for the workouts. They are both super cheap, super effective, and the Matrix brand tends to have an excellent taste. Don't get overly complicated, that just adds stress. Keep it simple: 1) get enough carbs, in general (lots of veggies, and slower digesting sources at all times other than what is discussed in the Perfect Workout Nutrition 2013 thread)2) have protein, carbs, and fats at each meal (except immediately PWO)3) get your protein in 20-30g doses, every 2-3 hours.4) Use those frequent feedings to meet your mass gain caloric goals.5) Train! That's it man. Good growing to you! I won't say good luck, because if you follow this plan you won't need luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluidity Posted February 3, 2013 Author Share Posted February 3, 2013 No, just spread it out into more small feedings throughout the day and make sure you get the carbs you need. Should work out to around 50% of your total daily calories. 20-30g of protein every 2-3 hours, and always have carbs and fats right there with your protein, preferably from whole foods. Don't worry about the insulin spiking business. Insulin is how our bodies absorb foods, without it we die. Whey spikes insulin when consumed in isolation, but when you're having it mixed in with whole foods things are quite a bit different. I personally use Matrix 5.0 for non-workout protein (it's a slower-releasing blend), and I use whey concentrate for the workouts. They are both super cheap, super effective, and the Matrix brand tends to have an excellent taste. Don't get overly complicated, that just adds stress. Keep it simple: 1) get enough carbs, in general (lots of veggies, and slower digesting sources at all times other than what is discussed in the Perfect Workout Nutrition 2013 thread)2) have protein, carbs, and fats at each meal (except immediately PWO)3) get your protein in 20-30g doses, every 2-3 hours.4) Use those frequent feedings to meet your mass gain caloric goals.5) Train! That's it man. Good growing to you! I won't say good luck, because if you follow this plan you won't need luck.Haha Thanks Josh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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