pbars skill

hi guys, now that i can mastered thw handstand on different apparatus as floor, rings and pbars i'd like to learn a skill wich i usually see in gymnastic routine, i think is called half turn, now i have access only to my low pbars until i'll do to the gym...

so there is a sort of progression or a pre reqs?

i never heard something about this skill in the forum...so if someone can helps me...i'll appreciate it!!

thanks for your time

Ahh, HS pirouettes.

I'd start on the floor.

One of the first things is learning how to weight shift from one hand to another in a HS. So basically, HS wall walking or free walking in HS. Really learn how to support and post on one arm/hand.

One of the basic ways gymnasts learn to pirouette is the 3 step (versus a 2 step that is used on a single rail).

So basically each step is a 1/4 turn versus a 1/2 turn. You can sort of outline a box on floor with chalk or tape.

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Doing them on PB just requires you to be more exact since you do have as much "wiggle" room to error.

PB HS pirouettes generally require more open shoulder flexibility as does on a single rail. It can be done with poor or a lack of open shoulder flexibility, but it will ugly and be very unefficient.

A basic drill can be kick to a side HS (from a lunge) pirouette 1/4 out. Kick to a normal HS from a lunge in front of you, 1/4 turn.

Of course, learning to walk forwards, backwards, and sideways is helpful to HS walking.

thank you blair...do you think is needed the handstand on a single rail?...consider that i can't do handstand on floor now cause my wrist but before injury i was able to walk forward, backward,on a side and balance on each hand for 4-5 seconds, now i can walking also on pbars forward and backward...so i can apply your tips to pbas directly? maybe taking the pbars very near..

thanks again

You could try pirouettes on a set of floor PB or just parallettes (preferably long ones).

Honestly, I'd hold off until your wrist is better.

Single rail HS is a good drill for pirouetting but requires flexed wrists so that probably won't feel great.

You can also set a single rail near a wall and do it off the wall. Same goes for floor pirouette.

But in general, you will learn the 3 step hand placement pirouette before the 2 step.

Girls often don't work the 3 step much but they do it in effect for working lunge to side handstand, pirouette off dismounts early on. They also tend to work pirouetting much later than boys here in the states do to the compulsory routines.

in understand...fortunately i don't feel pain in handstand on single rail and generally on pbars...itàs for this reason that i want to learn it

Learn it on a set of low PB then. This is not one of those skills you want to split the bar with on a high/normal regulation set. It'll happen and having the option to come down to your feet will be appreciated.

thank you...today i tried it 5-6 times and if i do it with moderate velocity is easier than low movements...i continue to try in this way?

Sure, 5 or 6 is fine. It's just a skill.

It's best to be done with some momentum in the early stages but it can be done from a static HS. Most beginners learn their pirouettes by kicking up towards them and using that momentum to help the shift.

This is how the girls should do blind changes drill. Pirouette 1/2 up to the HS instead of falling out of the HS while turning.

For PB skills, pirouettes or reverse pirouettes will be done with swing as they would on HB.

The compulsory routines do pirouettes with swing or kick of the leg.

On BB is probably the only place the HS pirouette is done very slowly.

if anyone could point out some technical errors and maybe share some ideas about learning to pirouette correctly, i would be more than happy Heres where i am at the moment.

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I also can make the turn to the right hand side, but its not so stable, maybe every third time i can keep the balance. so maybe the question would be: If i make a right turn, how to prevent from falling over to that side after the "steps", which happens usually? I cant tell the difference between my left and right turn. Is it my feet i should pay more attention to while turning? I try to stay as tight as possible and point my toes.

Push off the right arm more when going for the last hand placement. Toe point is ok, but a tad more would be better.

Blairbob said:

Push off the right arm more when going for the last hand placement. Toe point is ok, but a tad more would be better.

thanks! I'll post a new video as i get better or if i face some difficulties.

edit: maybe my head needs to be more neutral also?

And more open shoulders too