Manna

i know that they are difficult on the floor but does anyone do mannas on the rings? i'ld love to see this...

NO. It would be like doing victorian on rings. Your triceps would explode

But I was thinking to try manna-cross hahaha.

even V-sits are rarely done on rings, i think they are rated the same in the COP as an L-sit though so why waste energy on it when you could do a simple L-sit and get the same score?

A V sit is a B, while a L sit is an A. I thought a manna and some other stuff might have been in older codes but I could be mixing it up with floor. I honestly haven't checked in a long time.

blairbob i have the 2006 code of points on my computer and the v-sit is ranked A along with the L-sit(full and staddled), back lever and front lever. are you sure its a B skill?

V seat is a B!

well there must be a mistake then on the COP i downloaded off the FIG website

in the December 2006 (07 year) V sit is listed as an A, 2 boxes below L sit

pg 83 #19

in the version 2 and version 3 of the 2009-2012 code off of FIg

pg 78#2 between L sit and inverted cross

perhaps they are trying to get people to train it and go for manna, dunno.

Beacuse, now I'm looking the new code (draft 2) and it says it's B on the floor and on the ring is B!!!

The third draft will be out in a December.

L-sit has the same rating as front lever? :shock:

Well i think this codes have to be revised. :wink:

Thanks, that's a great resource of information, and its also in spanish!!

they could change that for juniors. But for seniors it doesn't matter.

That change went out with new code in year 2004.

i agree with serotonin. i can do an L seat with straight legs for about 5-10 seconds but not a full front lever at all. Also, wouldn't v sits be considered much more difficult than a L seat no matter what apparatus they are performed on?

A v-sit would be harder, but if it's A move, it's considered so low it is barely worth rating.

In the JO code, an iron cross used to be a C and a front lever a B.

Blairbob said:

A v-sit would be harder, but if it's A move, it's considered so low it is barely worth rating.

In the JO code, an iron cross used to be a C and a front lever a B.

I recently checked and I saw the Iron Cross as a B move? Thats nuts!

rambo5501 said:

Blairbob said:

A v-sit would be harder, but if it's A move, it's considered so low it is barely worth rating.

In the JO code, an iron cross used to be a C and a front lever a B.

I recently checked and I saw the Iron Cross as a B move? Thats nuts!

For seniors it's ok, C would be to much.

In the US, we've switched over to pure FIG code for our optionals so there won't be any different judging system of JO and FIG anymore. I don't know what the girls are doing and I should find out.

Gregor said:

rambo5501 said:

Blairbob said:

A v-sit would be harder, but if it's A move, it's considered so low it is barely worth rating.

In the JO code, an iron cross used to be a C and a front lever a B.

I recently checked and I saw the Iron Cross as a B move? Thats nuts!

For seniors it's ok, C would be to much.

Talking about mannas. Is it possible to do a iron cross manna? lol

An easier one would be iron cross V-sit.

That would be some insane piked victorian thing.

V-seat iron cross is not any harder then an L-seat or normal cross.

one question. I saw more than 1 L-sits in ring routines in this past olympics. If L-sits are considered the same as Front-levers in value. Why choose L-sit over a front lever. Or can some one clarify for me?

The end score is combined from A score (difficulty) and B score (deduction).

1.) B score is scored from 10 points down, so if you have 0,8 deduction, your B score is 9,2.

2.) A score is combined from 10 MOST VALUBLY elements from 5 diffrent structure group, so you can have it 15, but it wll count only 10 most valuebly.

And from each group you must have at least one and maxximum 4 elements.

Rings structures:

1. Kip and swings elements

2. Strenght elements

3. Swing to handstand elements

4. Swing to strenght elements

5. dismounts

So why they do L-seats? Beacuse you can make transitions or with other words from l-seatyou can make a press to handstand and from handstand you can swing to dismount.