Types of Gymnastics Skills never done in competition

There are several skills, or types of skills that have come to my mind that aren't in the code of points and that i have never see done in gymnastics competitions. I'm aware that I'm not the only person to think of them because I've seen several of them done either in galas or or by trickers so my question is why aren't they ever done in competition.

-Any type of gaining tumbling skill ex: Round of Back Handspring Front tuck.

-Reverse arabian? skills ex: either from a punch, rebound, or front hanspring a half turn into a backward tumbling skill where the half turn occurcs before the gymnast is upside down

-Reverse azarian Lower through Front lever and with straight arms pull to iron cross.

-Inverted iron cross pull-out to handstand: Is this extremely difficult? or just non-sensicle in the construction of a rings routine because you could do a giant from inverted cross to handstand that get that requirement out of the way?

It used to be pretty popular to add a front flip at the end of a back tumbling pass to increase the score. However, when dismounting floor nowadays, the last skill counts as the dismount so doing a punch front out of a double back or twisting layout doesn't make sense.

Reverse Azarian? Well, in the code you can do a straight arm fwd roll from support (felge) to Iron Cross and it's a C. FL to cross is called Pineda and it's a D and if it's to maltese (swallow) it's an E and called Bhasvar. Doing this from a hang would be insane possibly impossible. There is a similar move called the CTI where a guy is in a picture with his arms horizontal and body vertical on a bar. Because of the way rings work, I don't think this is possible really. You could do an uprise movement possibly with something of a small swing like a russian kip on bars where you go from hang to support by starting off with a pump to arch then hollow.

Invert Cross press to HS is a C.

Many skills aren't done in competition if they have low values towards the value scores. At some point, it's just not worth doing some stuff if the value is the same as something else and if it is more difficult and of course blending it all into a routine.

ahahah blair i know the picture you are talking about...my father had seen this photo and he his a professor of physics at the university, anlizying this pic he say that is impossible!!! is a lver to much disadvantageous...in his opinion a grip of this type is impossible to hold

Thank you for clarifying a lot of that for me blairbob.

Now that you mention it I have seen plenty of front tumbling skills out of backtumbling passes in older fx routines .

I'm still a bit confused on the reverse azarian business though. I I'm trying to picture what a straight arm forward roll from support to iron cross would look like and I'm not getting it. I think I'm confused abou what a fledge is in general. A regular azarian iron cross is described as a fledge to Iron cross is it not? which makes the fledge itself kind of a backward roll through back lever to support?

The skill that I'm thinking of is done here by vangelder at 1:21 in a pully system. Similar to a pineda, but without the pause in front lever and without any bending at the elbow

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Marlon, look at what he does around 1:45. It's also in the FIG code under Rings as I was going through it last night.

In sport it means circle. Ya gotta dig through the definitions as it's considered a rim in German.

Well then, I guess everything is all wrapped up in a neat little package! Thank you very much for your help blairbob.

Still rings cable crossing, it's practically banned as a lot of things nowadays, or they have so low value that it's waste of time and energy to learn them (FX Liukin).

have you ever seen this:

maltese press to handstand with straigth body?!?!?!

I think I saw it in the code, check youtube.

i saw maltese press to inverted cross but NOT press to handstand

can't find a video or think of one off the top of my head but that's it in the CoP.

i saw beore in the element code...i'm searching around the web but no one do it...it's to difficult?!