Cross Training question

Hi all,

I've been doing some iron cross training and i'm progressing pretty well, however i have some questions. Last nite a friend informed me that while my arms are straight and fairly level my shoulders are shrugged up. I'm not really sure if this is a technique problem or a form of "cheating"? Also i was told i'm not really holding a false grip, but i find it kind of weird to get into a false grip wen i'm in support, any tips on how to properly arrange my hands before descending into a cross? I want to film soon and post a vid but in the meantime any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Get used to flexing your wrists as you lower down if you want to use the false grip for now in the cross. Try it first with your body somewhat supported, so it will be easier.

Bare in mind, a false grip in a cross, will null the element. It's debateable about how much of a false grip elites use that DQ the element and how much they get away with. You can see it also in Victorians.

Elites get away with no deduction...ANd you can use it in all elements in cross and inverted cross support, swallows and inverted swallows. You can not use it in just in planche.

How to do false grip: first you are learning it with muscle up. Then like blairbob said: in regular grip when you are lowering in one point start to twisting your wrists in.

About shrugs sholders up: No, it's not a cheating, but it's not a good form if you want to progress....With shoulders up: you can't do push to support and it's not safe for azarian executions or nakayamas, because you are inactive in shoulders and you hang too much stress on sholders.

Make an active form!!! But if you want just a cross, then there is not a problem, in other hand if you want progression...

Thanks Gregor & Blairbob,

I'll see how i go tonight

Though I am not a gymnast and cannot comment or legal form, I do know that shrugged up shoulders in almost any exercise can be an invitation to impingement.

You must be in active form not in passive.