Learning ring moves

Heya. Well 2 moves on the rings I'm trying to learn are slow incolate and kip to support (straight arm)

Well I actually did the slow incolate once, but it burned the inside of my shoulders like HELL. So now I've begun training more flexibility so that I might be able to do it in the future without any pain, but if anybody knows the exact approach on learning this move I would really appreciate it

And for the kip to support, I can do it to support and dip it to straight arm easily, it's not even hard, but landing in straight arm is so much more requiring and it would be nice if some people could give me a piece of advice?

Thanks in advance

- The new forum guy Tefached

There is a lot of prehab needed for the inlocates. The decision for you to work on flexibility was a good one. As for the kip, if you look in the Coach Sommer essays, there is one Coach wrote about that. Hope that helped. Welcome to the forum.

Thanks for your reply But could you be so nice and point out where to find those essays

Most of the essays are sticked at the top of the subforums. There's a lot of good info to begin from there and new users are encouraged to dig in.

I found the most important thing when learning the kip to L support to be this: Kip hard with the legs but STOP them when they pass the straps. When I got this advice I did a decent one on the first try

Thanks for the replies guys

And I get what you mean Svend.. I just hope I can kick hard enough

Inlocates can be done through strength help to...

Kip to L-seat with straight arms must/should be done through IC (like you do kip to IC just litlle higher and not stopping).

What is IC?

..And btw I just learned the slow incolate today hurts the shoulders a little.. but I'm sure I'll get used to it after a while

iron cross.