Biomechanic of lats - Allesandro Mainente old post

Hi ,

In an old 2014 topic, Alessandro posted this answer wich i would like to understand properly

"if you think about the biomechanic of lats you will understand that the front lever row starts to be useful when you move the upper arm above the parallel. complete rom must have the bar touching the body,"

I was told that the lat cannot extend the upper arm further than along the body when the upper arm is at the leverl of the torso (it can't extend behind)

so i would like Alessandro  to elaborate on this if he got some time to answer

https://www.gymnasticbodies.com/forum/topic/17253-front-lever-pull-ups/ in this Topic

Thanks as always (i learned a ton from you)

Victor

3 hours ago, Victor A MOUCLIER said:

Hi ,

In an old 2014 topic, Alessandro posted this answer wich i would like to understand properly

"if you think about the biomechanic of lats you will understand that the front lever row starts to be useful when you move the upper arm above the parallel. complete rom must have the bar touching the body,"

I was told that the lat cannot extend the upper arm further than along the body when the upper arm is at the leverl of the torso (it can't extend behind)

so i would like Alessandro  to elaborate on this if he got some time to answer

https://www.gymnasticbodies.com/forum/topic/17253-front-lever-pull-ups/ in this Topic

Thanks as always (i learned a ton from you)

Victor

what is your doubt?

Could you explain wich way the front lever rows starts to be useful when the upper arms breaks 90 degree on the concentric part ?

Is it useful because the lats are workinf in an unusual angle ?
Is it useful because the rear delts are catching up the work of the lats thus improving the strenght of the usually weaker part of the deltoid ?

2 hours ago, Victor A MOUCLIER said:

Could you explain wich way the front lever rows starts to be useful when the upper arms breaks 90 degree on the concentric part ?

Is it useful because the lats are workinf in an unusual angle ?
Is it useful because the rear delts are catching up the work of the lats thus improving the strenght of the usually weaker part of the deltoid ?

basically becuase we do no train this angle with vertical pullup, the major movers are long head triceps, teres major and posterior deltoid!

the rows become very useful also if you improve the general shoulder extension passive range of motion plus scapular adductor, the more you are able to hold the retraction the later the lat will stop to assist the other synergic muscles...