two question...flare and muscleup

Started by Alessandro Mainente, May 26, 2010 · 30 Replies · 5,557 Views

Alessandro Mainente

i have to question for you that know more than me...

the first is concerned with flare, i have some problem on the back, i'm not so high,can be a right thing perform a round of flare and stop in a planche postion?

the second is concerned on the muscleup, now i can perform about7-8 muscleups in a row, a 3-4 muscleups in a row with 8,5kg plus, and i'm approximately 66 kg with very low body fat...my question is....is a reasonable thing add some weight everyweek as i'm doing!!! my increment is about 0.5 kg every 2 week, or 0.25 kg everyweek....what do you think about it?

thabkssss for who answer

Razz

A correct flare will pass through straddle planche position, is that what you are asking?

Muscle up sounds like low increment to me honestly, but of course you will be safe like that. Why not try more advanced stuff than muscle ups or start doing FL->muscleup->planche pushup?

Alessandro Mainente

yes,,,the transition to planche i needed?

and at your second question i answer that i can do for example multiple and slow foward roll to muscle up, front lever to muscle up, invertend hang to muscle up.....what i want to know is...is necessary continue to increase the weigth in muscleups? or now is better focuse my self on more difficult skillz?

thank you very much...sorry for the english

Razz

I personally would focus on more advanced skills instead of keeping on adding weight. Work on iron cross or iron cross pullouts if you already have a cross.

Alessandro Mainente

thank you...

Blairbob

Muscle-up to BL, Muscle-up to Cross...

Alessandro Mainente

how i can perform muscle up to BL?...i have toslow down in BL forward or backward?

Razz

If my neck heals I'll film one and show it. But you do muscle up to bottom dip position and then lean forward and slowly straigten your arms while you push down on the rings to bring your feet up to back lever position.

Alessandro Mainente

i wan to try it!!!! to slow down i think that you have a very strong bicep or not?!

Razz

Yes to do the movement slowly you need quite a strong biceps, I can't do it slowly yet.

Alessandro Mainente

but during the entire movement you have to maintain the flase grip? also in back lever?

Razz

No you can slide out of the false grip when you are lowering to the back lever

Alessandro Mainente

i've tried it yesterday evening...and if i use the false grip i can go down more slowly than without the false grip...i think this is because i can push down plus...maybe the problem can be that you can't do the back lever with the false grip...i can do it...with the arms a little bit bent...but is only a question of shoulder flexibility and forearms (false grip) strength...I THINK :):):):):):):):)

i'm talking about this... see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEtRin85V4

see at 00:18 sec, or 00:40 sec

Razz

Yeah they need to keep false grip for those moves because they need it for the maltese after the back lever. For muscle up to back lever there is no need to keep the false grip unless you want to press to cross or something I can imagine..

Alessandro Mainente

yes you're right...in the same case they push to maltese....but don't worry i can't push to maltese :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

Razz

Haha I was getting worried you could :P That would be insane

Gregor
Razz said:
If my neck heals I'll film one and show it. But you do muscle up to bottom dip position and then lean forward and slowly straigten your arms while you push down on the rings to bring your feet up to back lever position.

Not realy, you must not get to support! If you do this is not the correct B value element (C is with straight arm :wink: ).

Gregor

For flair: post a video.

I can just guess without video, but it can be problem with your lower leg :arrow: lower leg must be leading leg.

Razz

Hmm maybe I explained it wrong but I'm not trying to go to support, just chest around ring height (just about bottom dip position) and then lean forward. Should I not get over the rings at all??

Gregor

Preferebly not over the rings. You can't have any support at all (you must not get to deep position of a dip). It's not that easy B as it looks like :mrgreen: C is with straight arms :lol:

Razz

Hmmm I will have to try that, so just go to top part of pull up?

Gregor

Yes :wink:

John Sapinoso

how can this be done with straight arms???? Do you mean inlocate to BL?

Gregor

You must direct fall to BL, so it's more like balandin 1 or butterfly cross. If you just inlocat your legs wont be in BL position. You must rise first and when you are almost in the crss you decline to BL.

Alessandro Mainente

do you think for the circles extension...is better the bucket circles on the hands or on the elbows?