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Progression

Started by Harley Smith, September 25, 2017 · 5 Replies · 123 Views

Harley Smith

Hey guys and gals 1st post here, would love some positive, informative and creative advice here! So i have been training with the Gymnastic-bodies foundation One for about four months now fairly consistent. Loving the workouts and exercise selection and am seeing positive results regarding the several static positions etc. How i have structured my routine is different from coach Sommer's recommendations in the fact that i work every single current maximum progression everyday for 5 days. So 5 sets each FL, SP, SL, mana, SLS, HBP, RC and HS etc this takes approximately one and a half too two hours. I have been thinking about certain deload strategies and routine structure to incorporate. So my questions are also how do the top athletes train six hours a day etc if i was to add in more gymnastic work into my day how would i go about this, would it be wise to incorporate days or weeks where i focus specifically on one hold eg, the manna for instance, training through each progression hard to easy 5x5 etc, also focusing on fatigue management. Obviously the body is limited to adaptation, but how can i get more out of this without wasted time, energy or unnecessary training approachs. Hope this makes sense please ask/answer away.         

Alessandro Mainente

Hi Harley, actually you are working in opposite logic. Beginners do not need a deload week, on the opposite the work must be structured in order to have the correct amount of intensity. The fact that mentally you are capable to hold this volume does not mean that your body it is. My suggestion it is to follow Coach Sommer's suggestions, simply because I cannot remember how many people he tested the programs ...too many. The reason behind suggestions represents the necessity to readapt the training in the best way.

Athletes who train 6 hours a day have already built up their conditioning, the capability to adapt, recover and improve in the previous 10 years. working every day all the exercises, with 5 sets will never be the correct strategy. Try to compare yourself (exactly as I not do) to these athletes, we are completely different from them. Trying to emulate their approach will result only on crushing our body.

Harley Smith

I totaly agree that my current aproach is less than optimal, thats the reason for the question, i understand that as a child building the gymnasticbodies may be low in frequency but racking up thousands of reps over the years. Personally i have felt that my progression fast forward moving away from training the particular skill once a week to a more frequent aproach, is there not a trade of between low volume+high frequency and high volume+low frequency even for "beginers"? Also what are your veiws on still working the top 5 "mastered" exercises for a particular skill, is this seen as pointless or as adding volume and refining that skill? 

Alessandro Mainente

well for you last question, you can use the mastered elements for the warm-up (one set of the mastery) and as a cool down for joint conditioning. This should be enough for you.

For the rest the 5 days a week schedule it is optimal if you have more time you can spend some time the mobility so that the future elements which require, for example, handstand, are limited by a loss of mobility.

Harley Smith

Cool man i am liking the specific feed back. Is there a particular reason to train each skill only once per week? Also, i have completed mastery on several of the skills in foundation 1 so will be looking at foundation 2 soon, is coach Sommers recommendations for foundation 2 routine follow the same principle or does it somewhat change? Thanks

Alessandro Mainente

The principle is basically the same for F2.

Training once a week especially for a beginner it is the correct amount of time. If you can do more you can evaluate 2 times a week. As you progress over Foundations you will feel that twice a week it is the best solution.