As I know FL is a back and core dominant movement.
Why the course don`t train back and core simultaneously? For example: doing core work and tuck lever(to train the back) together?
I think this may be more efficient way to learn FL?
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Started by Chris Harvey, April 23, 2017 · 10 Replies · 395 Views
As I know FL is a back and core dominant movement.
Why the course don`t train back and core simultaneously? For example: doing core work and tuck lever(to train the back) together?
I think this may be more efficient way to learn FL?
The Front lever it is primarily an isolation exercise for the lats and then the core promotes stabilization. Actually, the way you propose it is not good. In the early phase of the front lever development the first GOAL it is to develop the only one structure who develops the spine stability during suspended horizontal work that is for definition the core with superficial and deep muscles. Also, weak core will be revealed in the inability to hold the spine into flexed position.
1 hour ago, Alessandro Mainente said:Back lever it is primarily an isolation exercise for the lats and then the core promotes stabilization. Actually, the way you propose it is not good. In the early phase of the front lever development the first GOAL it is to develop the only one structure who develops the spine stability during suspended horizontal work that is for definition the core with superficial and deep muscles. Also, weak core will be revealed in the inability to hold the spine into flexed position.
Sorry I still dont understand
I mean why not build lats and core together?
I'm no coach, but Foundations is a holistic program so lats are getting simultaneous development in the RC series.
Early phases of FL are focused on core, but these are just the preparatory elements (PE) that make sure we have the basic building blocks for the movement. As we progress, we'll get into the specific elements (SE) that are the movement progressions, and I'm sure FL SE exercises will use core and lats together.
43 minutes ago, Julia Quigley said:I'm no coach, but Foundations is a holistic program so lats are getting simultaneous development in the RC series.
Early phases of FL are focused on core, but these are just the preparatory elements (PE) that make sure we have the basic building blocks for the movement. As we progress, we'll get into the specific elements (SE) that are the movement progressions, and I'm sure FL SE exercises will use core and lats together.
Definitely. Certainly in the F2 PEs you will be working static whole-of-back strength (to coin a phrase), but fl development isn't going to get off the ground without solid straight body work.
I just want to add that when you are doing the Foundations, core is definitely used in all the elements. If you are not using your core in the exercises then you are not maximizing it. ![]()
Strong core it is necessary to stabilize the spine during suspended work on front lever progression. how do you expect to have your spine stabilized if you have not ALREADY and PREVIOUSLY mastered a decent core conditioning?
Core first, then general preparation, then specific preparation. this is how thing MUST GO in every physical sport.
Another question sort of along these lines,
Why is back lever not included in the foundational 6 exercises?
47 minutes ago, Ryan Segervall said:Another question sort of along these lines,
Why is back lever not included in the foundational 6 exercises?
BL is in the Rings course, and will likely be achieved as a skill quite a bit earlier. For adult beginners, the injury risk of regular training in it greatly outweighs the benefits, especially since we can cover comparable or better ground in terms of core strength between SL, FL and PL progressions.
The primary use of it is in straight -arm prep and the training progression is straightforward. Once joint prep is in place -not before- it is a quickly- and safely -acquired skill.
Alessandro and Coach Sommer have posted quite a bit on why back levers are pushed back for adult trainees compared to kids
@Jon Douglas
great response! Thank you for clearing this up. I was a but puzzled as to why cause it is typically thought of as one of the easier of the levers to learn. Makes sense as to why it is pushed back in peoples training time line
On 4/25/2017 at 9:34 PM, Jon Douglas said:BL is in the Rings course, and will likely be achieved as a skill quite a bit earlier. For adult beginners, the injury risk of regular training in it greatly outweighs the benefits, especially since we can cover comparable or better ground in terms of core strength between SL, FL and PL progressions.
The primary use of it is in straight -arm prep and the training progression is straightforward. Once joint prep is in place -not before- it is a quickly- and safely -acquired skill.
Alessandro and Coach Sommer have posted quite a bit on why back levers are pushed back for adult trainees compared to kids
Adding to the post above: The distal bicep tendon needs prior development, so that your tendon does not pull away from the bone from the tension of the Back Lever.
In regards to the original question... The overall core muscles generally include the most of the minor and major back muscles.