Feel like getting violent

When I read stuff like this http://www.shape.com/fitness/workouts/15-exercises-trainers-would-never-do/slide/9

Am I right in thinking , that this is stupid as leg raises are not meant to hyper extend the back

Lol. Yeah, it's dangerous, man.

Have you seen how crossfitters do leg raises (toes to bar)? Not saying the article is correct but in GST leg raises are part of the Manna progression, for general fitness maybe not.

Note the difference between long-time 'national team coach' vs 'certified fitness trainer and author of 10 minute fitness DVD' To be fair to an unprepped person a lot of GST exercises are relatively dangerous, but as we know, that is not the case with a correct approach.

Also I hate 'toes to bar.' Seriously, how hard is 'keep your legs straight?'

Jon Douglas said:

Also I hate 'toes to bar.' Seriously, how hard is 'keep your legs straight?'

haha. it's up there with "hinge from the hip" for a pike stretch, "flex your abs and press your lower back into the floor" for hollow holds and my favorite "straight body while in plank. this isn't a yoga class, no downward dogs!"

the group im working with has condition, however the problems are all neurological: no idea what engaging abs feels like, ppt, pft don't even ask. protraction and depression they've wrapped their heads around after around a few months of working with them. I had to begin row variations with a barbell in a squat rack because the instability of the rings would make them half row / half pull up with either a flexed torso or overly arched back but funny enough not one of them can do a hinge row. not. one. single. person. it completely blows theirs minds up.

today for the first time, i heard someone say they got a cramp in their abs from doing hollow holds with bent legs. i was so proud.

Keilani Gutierrez said:

today for the first time, i heard someone say they got a cramp in their abs from doing hollow holds with bent legs. i was so proud.

 

That's cool Doin good work

 The leglifts anecdote is probably due to Stuart McGill's work on spinal flexion that humans have x amount of spinal flexion repetitions in their spine in their lifetime.

 

The funny thing about "exercises you should never do" articles is that pretty much every exercise you can think of has made it on to one of the lists. Usually the exercises that promise certain doom are ones that have never bothered me while some of the 'approved' exercises leave me in pain.

It's amazing what makes the list.

So far I've seen situps, back squats, even squat thrusts at one point because of the bending over motion..

I swear, they most do these studies on desk workers

In the case McGill's study, it was done on the spines of dead pigs. Due to the differing nature of a living spine and a dead spine, it should only be indicative of a need for further investigation, rather than a proclamation that repeated flexion movements are bad for the spine. There are other studies out there, and I'm not trying to disparage McGill's work, just giving an example of how this stuff comes out and people take off running with it.