False grip - rings vs bar

Hi all!

I developed a good strenght for false grip on rings, Both bent and straight arm. I am able to perform muscle up on rings too.

Before that I used to perform muscle up on the bar, but not with the proper false grip.

Look at this pic.

I felt very uncomfortable with the grip shown on the right, so I used the left one. A few months ago I saw this pic, who tells the left one is not the proper false grip. Do you agree with the pic? I guess I found the right grip more difficult because of lack of forearm/wrist mobility and strenght. I had a severe difficulty to keep my arms completely extended as well!

Besides, Is it quite normal that false grip on the bar (the right one shown in the pic) is much more difficult on the bar compared to rings? If so, I guess I should aim to hang on the bar with straight/bent arms, just like I did on the rings! Could be a good idea?

Thank you!

i think there is no wrong/right when it comes to false grips on the bar. the picture on the left is certainly not wrong because you can definitely DO a strict muscle up in that position and i certainly did. what makes is harder (and i guess therefore "wrong") is the fact that it solely depends on your forearm-flexors and your grip cant assist. i have never tried the variation on the right but i can imagine it is harder mobilitywise but easier to hold strengthwise.

 

how you train always depends on your goals. i am not sure about the benefits the straight bar false grip really has if you are already working on or already have a solid false grip on the rings. if your goals isnt a strict muscle up on the bar, i personally do not think it is necessary.

DieKatze said:

i think there is no wrong/right when it comes to false grips on the bar. the picture on the left is certainly not wrong because you can definitely DO a strict muscle up in that position and i certainly did. what makes is harder (and i guess therefore "wrong") is the fact that it solely depends on your forearm-flexors and your grip cant assist. i have never tried the variation on the right but i can imagine it is harder mobilitywise but easier to hold strengthwise.

how you train always depends on your goals. i am not sure about the benefits the straight bar false grip really has if you are already working on or already have a solid false grip on the rings. if your goals isnt a strict muscle up on the bar, i personally do not think it is necessary.

Well, I was thinking on performing strict bar muscle up and in the future some skills like front lever pull ups with false grip, or some combos like front lever to muscle up, always on the bar... I was thinking that such skills should be performed with the right grip in the pic! Am I right?

that grip would make them definitely easier, yes

I don't see how the left pic could be right ever... He isn't grabbing the bar at all... As soon as you pull over the bar your arm will slide off....

ausswe said:

I don't see how the left pic could be right ever... He isn't grabbing the bar at all... As soon as you pull over the bar your arm will slide off....

He can grab it once his arms get over the bar. There is also another variation of false grip on bar. It is with the wrists on the bar and fingers touching the bar, but not grabbing on to it with palms. This variation requires less wrist mobility than the one in the picture on the right.

B1214N said:

He can grab it once his arms get over the bar. There is also another variation of false grip on bar. It is with the wrists on the bar and fingers touching the bar, but not grabbing on to it with palms. This variation requires less wrist mobility than the one in the picture on the right.

exactly. i think you´re talking aboutn this variation:

DieKatze said:

exactly. i think you´re talking aboutn this variation:

This grip is the one I used till now! [emoji6]

i tried the variation on the right today for the first time and got a strict and SLOW bar muscle up for the first time in my life. so my personal tip: if you can, work it and use it 

DieKatze said:

i tried the variation on the right today for the first time and got a strict and SLOW bar muscle up for the first time in my life. so my personal tip: if you can, work it and use it

DieKatze said:

exactly. i think you´re talking aboutn this variation:

Here's a video of my muscle up - performed as slowly as I can - with both grips.

The first one is with wrists and fingertips in contact with the bar.

https://youtu.be/XVdnYAcQMAA

The second one is performed placing palm over the bar, emulating as much as possible the false grip on rings.

https://youtu.be/4U-2ryLnNzM

As I said previously I find much harder the second kind of muscle up. I can perform only two reps before I lose my false grip. Besides I barely can hang on the bar with straight arms for 10-15 secs...

With the grip on the first video I can easily perform at least 5 clean reps.

I can hang on the bar with straight arms for at least 30 secs...

Considering this stuff, I think I have to work on improving my false grip (i.e. the second grip) on the bar. Maybe this way I will be able to perform almost the same number of reps with both grips... What do you think?

Thank you!

i have nothing else to say except...daaaamn those are some nice muscle ups

DieKatze said:

i have nothing else to say except...daaaamn those are some nice muscle ups

Thank you DieKatze!! [emoji3] [emoji4] Well, then I'm going to work on improving my false grip on the bar!