tuck or adv.tuck

Hi everyone !

Tuck Pl : +30 sec max ( good form)

Adv tuck : 15 sec max 

 i only feel stimulus with adv tuck but i have a biceps-brachialis tendonitis ( in early phase) 

so should i build high volume on my tuck planche or move on to adv.tuck or can i work a little bit both ?

thanks in advance !

Bosco said:

Hi everyone !

 

Tuck Pl : +30 sec max ( good form)

Adv tuck : 15 sec max 

 

 i only feel stimulus with adv tuck but i have a biceps tendonitis ( in early phase) 

so should i build high volume on my tuck planche or move on to adv.tuck or can i work a little bit both ?

 

thanks in advance !

First get 60 sec of tucked planche and then move to next progression.

that's the safest way.

Oh and do you have a tip to count precisely your satics times, i'm mistaking every time i count in my head ?

Thanks for your response.

Bosco said:

that's the safest way.

Oh and do you have a tip to count precisely your satics times, i'm mistaking every time i count in my head ?

Thanks for your response.

Put a wall watch on floor in front of you, not to much so you dont need to lift your head.

Bosco said:

Hi everyone !

 

Tuck Pl : +30 sec max ( good form)

Adv tuck : 15 sec max 

 

 i only feel stimulus with adv tuck but i have a biceps-brachialis tendonitis ( in early phase) 

so should i build high volume on my tuck planche or move on to adv.tuck or can i work a little bit both ?

 

thanks in advance !

Never do planche training with tendonitis. You have been going too hard, else it would not have arisen. Take some weeks off, count your blessings since the injury is only a minor one and then start out easier. You can check the prerequisities thread for more info there.

Agreed. Do not try to push past your tedonitis or expect to be rehabbing for the next year.
Step back, let it heal, and then return training with a much lower intensity.

Thanks for the responses, i think i should take 2-3 weeks of rest, but does practicing tuck pl push ups will help me to not loosing too much strenght during weeks without straight arm planche training ?

the thing is that i'm really upset to have tendonitis while being careful with my body ( i can hold a straddle planche for few sec. but i was working my tuck and adv.tuck) and when i see some athletes rushing into the progressions and they don't get any joint problem it just makes me furious !!

anyway all the best advices that one could find about bodyweight training is on this forum !

Bosco said:

Thanks for the responses, i think i should take 2-3 weeks of rest, but does practicing tuck pl push ups will help me to not loosing too much strenght during weeks without straight arm planche training ?

Rest compleatly. You will lose some strenght, deal with it. Next time train smarter.

Paf said:

Rest compleatly. You will lose some strenght, deal with it. Next time train smarter.

I second this. Complete rest and then start all over again. Check the prerequisities thread and planche lean thread and go from there.

If you feel any discomfort at all you are doing something too advanced or you need more rest.

Bosco said:

Thanks for the responses, i think i should take 2-3 weeks of rest, but does practicing tuck pl push ups will help me to not loosing too much strenght during weeks without straight arm planche training ?

Tuck planche push-ups will help build up some chest and shoulder strength, but it is bent arm strength so it won't be a direct transfer but will still help quite a bit. Since you have tendonitis, make sure not to lock out on the planche push-ups or else you can further damage your elbows.

B1214N said:

Tuck planche push-ups will help build up some chest and shoulder strength, but it is bent arm strength so it won't be a direct transfer but will still help quite a bit. Since you have tendonitis, make sure not to lock out on the planche push-ups or else you can further damage your elbows.

The more he bends his elbows, the less transfer to planche there is. Which is another important reason to why he should not be doing them.

Freshpro said:

The more he bends his elbows, the less transfer to planche there is. Which is another important reason to why he should not be doing them.

I don't see why he shouldn't do them if it doesn't hurt or aggravate his injury. Even though there is less transfer with bent arms, it would still be better than not doing anything. He asked if training tuck planche push-ups will help him lose less strength in the planche and it does. His shoulders and chests will get even stronger from it and once his tendonitis is gone; he can easily build up the straight arm strength.

B1214N said:

I don't see why he shouldn't do them if it doesn't hurt or aggravate his injury. Even though there is less transfer with bent arms, it would still be better than not doing anything. He asked if training tuck planche push-ups will help him lose less strength in the planche and it does. His shoulders and chests will get even stronger from it and once his tendonitis is gone; he can easily build up the straight arm strength.

Presuming he has no muscular imbalances he will build strength in a slightly bent arm planche yes (premusing he does not lock out elbows of course), yes, but not the straight arm strength. Which he has to train for afterwards anyway if he wants planche with correct form.

And tuck planche push ups may or may not aggrevate the injury, and you may or may not notice an aggrevation right away. I see no need to take chances.

I would recommend being on the safe side and eliminate elbow-involvement in the training. But that is just my opinion.

i need to precise that i can hold a straddle planche actually for 2-3 sec, so it's my maximal strenght, but i don't have a 60 sec tuck planche so i told myself i had to build the foundation. if i rest, i don't want to lost the strenght i've worked very (too) hard to achieved...

When tendinitis comes it is usuall to rest compleatly part of body where it is (leg or arm in this case). I dont see why you guys argue about this.

By the way, if arm is just 10% bented doesent biceps then work ?

I think no,  when you watch someone doing a planche with a slight bent, the biceps doesn't seems to contract but i'm not sure about this.

Well,



- Elbow compleatly open



- Elbow bented a little bit

Untile elbow is 90 degrees bented biceps is taking weight, after 90 degrees triceps is taking weight.

Same thing is in planche only in planche you use your body as weight.

Rest compleatly man, you wont die in this 2 weeks.

Bosco said:

I think no,  when you watch someone doing a planche with a slight bent, the biceps doesn't seems to contract but i'm not sure about this.

Biceps is a stabilizer here, bending the arm in this position shifts focus to triceps

Paf said:

Well,

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- Elbow compleatly open

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- Elbow bented a little bit

Untile elbow is 90 degrees bented biceps is taking weight, after 90 degrees triceps is taking weight.

Same thing is in planche only in planche you use your body as weight.

Rest compleatly man, you wont die in this 2 weeks.

You got there before me