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Started by Spphysio, May 6, 2014 · 11 Replies · 324 Views
I have almost completed mastery for HBP/PE2 but my planche Lean needs lots of work so I was thinking to increase the reps of the pushups to 20 or increase the number of sets performed until I have a decent planche lean to progress on HBP/PE3.
Do you think this is a good idea?
Or maybe I can continue training pushups but try to bring the hands closer to the hips so basically perform PPP without the lean and withnot so much hollow body
thoughts?
Better to keep a warmup set of pushups and start working on PPP, even if its with a lesser lean 
get straight onto strength development.
Jon Douglas said:Better to keep a warmup set of pushups and start working on PPP, even if its with a lesser lean
I was thinking performing something like the following performed by Daniel on Fitness FAQ until I have a solid lean.
Spphysio said:I was thinking performing something like the following performed by Daniel on Fitness FAQ until I have a solid lean.
Interesting. Clearly a strong guy, but we'd fail him for the back arch in his demo of the 'correct' PPP
What were you thinking about doing? The ones he demonstrates as 'poor?' Waste of time IMO deliberately and arbitrarily limiting yourself. Just use as much a lean as you currently can, build up strength there, and repeat. It will help your lean develop faster too
Actually I was thinking performing the ''correct'' version with the back arch which I can perform with as much lean as he uses.
Spphysio said:Actually I was thinking performing the ''correct'' version with the back arch which I can perform with as much lean as he uses.
Bad habit-forming and not as productive as less lean with a good hollow in my opinion.
You're free to do what you think is best of course
Will Follow your advice: move on to PPP 
The push ups in the warm ups get easy, it's the PPP you need to start on. I started with a small lean and can now do a full lean after 12 months. It has been slow, but my strength from these is so much better.
Mark Collins said:The push ups in the warm ups get easy, it's the PPP you need to start on. I started with a small lean and can now do a full lean after 12 months. It has been slow, but my strength from these is so much better.
Are you referring to the lean in the F1 video as the full lean? Because that isn't really the full lean; it's just the lean you should be doing at F1 level just to clarify.
B1214N said:Are you referring to the lean in the F1 video as the full lean? Because that isn't really the full lean; it's just the lean you should be doing at F1 level just to clarify.
The one in the video. I don't want to think of how hard a technical full lean will be!
Yeah, the technical full lean is almost a full planche.
Listen to Jon, seriously.
PPP = work on them with less lean but stay tight and hollow, build strenght form there.
Planche leans = keep practice practice practice and increasing the lean
Pushups = warm up when mastered.
There's no more to say 