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Recovery inbetween Sets/Training Rings One

Started by Samurai, March 1, 2014 · 5 Replies · 535 Views

Samurai

Hey guys!

 

I just bought Rings one today and have 2 questions :

 

First question: I am at the moment working through foundation 2 however i have been training on rings for the last few years and have a 60 second Ring Support Hold with the rings turned out a pretty solid 20-30 second full lay backlever and a decent ring handstand (Elbows locked rings are not turned out 45 degrees though) - As far as i read it is more or less "Do Rings One but be careful to listen to your body" right?

 

And my Second question is regarding the actual exercises - In the foundation courses there was no "rest" between sets because there were the IM exercises as "rest" however there are no IM exercises coupled with the Ring strenght exercises - Do you rest inbetween sets and if yes then how long? I read it all but didn't see any information regarding that (Unless i somehow managed to skip it :D)

 

Thanks guys!

Coach Sommer

- Do not get ahead of yourself. As you have not yet completed F4, you should not be engaged in programmed ring strength training. The reason you have not yet been able to master Foundations thru F4 is that you still have physical preparation deficiencies to address.

- that said, when "you are ready", rest as needed between ring strength sets. Remember that ring strength is maximal strength training and generally that means 3-5 minutes between sets. Although with these easier exercises in R1 that should be closer to 3min. And as your work capacity increases and the exercises become 'easier', the needed rest times will continue to decrease when using the same load.

- HBP, RC and the other seven main Foundation elements and their iMs are performed in the general warmup.

- R1 mobility is performed in the beginning of the ring specific workout.

- Single arm lockoffs are performed in between each SARS work set.

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

Samurai

Thanks Coach!

Eric Xavier

I am so utterly confused by the rest times of foundation.  I must not have a good definition of strength training.  In the foundation series, it says to only rest enough to perform the mobility between sets.  Which sometimes translates to less than 1 minute rest between sets.

 

Doing Open Planche>Bent arm straddle extension>Open planche is killing me SO much more than ring supports and back levers.  IN all honesty, I cannot do these without resting in between the mobility and the actual set.

 

Maybe this has to do with the time spent with these exercises?  Ring support/Back lever work have been a part of my regular workouts for year(s) now and I must have gotten used to sets with low rest times on these?

 

I would really love to get some sort of guidance/clarification on what is/can be considered strength work and what isn't.  Maybe something on the strength chart that I am not understanding?  Back levers have long rest times when something like a straddle planche or HBP have little to no rest times?

Coach Sommer

You are having a difficult time with Foundation because your work capacity is still inadequate. This will continue to improve if you are meticulous.

Something that many people fail to understand is that the stronger you are in terms of maximal strength, the more essential it is to have a higher work capacity days in your schedule in order to maintain joint integrity and health. The two go hand in hand.

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

Alessandro Mainente
Coach Sommer said:

You are having a difficult time with Foundation because your work capacity is still inadequate. This will continue to improve if you are meticulous.

Something that many people fail to understand is that the stronger you are in terms of maximal strength, the more essential it is to have a higher work capacity days in your schedule in order to maintain joint integrity and health. The two go hand in hand.

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this is very interesting!