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MN/PE9 - V to L HLL

Started by Eddie, February 11, 2014 · 8 Replies · 254 Views

Eddie

 

This has been my substitute to stall bars. In the Foundation video for this PE, the athlete is grabbing the dowel that is in the same plan as the dowels pressing on his shoulders. Previous PEs (i.e MN/PE8) the athletes grabbed the top dowel that is offset from the dowels supporting the shoulders, which is what my setup is mimicking.

 

This was my 5th set of 5x5 MN/PE9 and my first workout with this PE and I was able to complete 5x5. This video is a good representation of what they all looked like. My question is, does this meet mastery or do I need to mimic the hand shoulder placement the athlete in the Foundation video demonstrates for this PE?

 

Also, my chest chokes the crap out of me with every rep, is that normal since the head can't move back on stall bars?

MT Nordic

 My two cents is that it looks great.  super range of motion.  you may be relying a bit on your lats, but I think you're looking good.  Hand placement is fine.  I think only small athletes can really use the dowels in the same plane as the stall bars.  Your set up looks like a good match for the stall bars.

ausswe

Your feet go a bit high. Focus on more compression so that your toes come up to about hand height rather than above it. Otherwise looking strong

Duff

Most of your lift is coming from the shoulder girdle, not from your hips. That means you are using your lats too much and abs too little. Look at the angle between the stall bars and your back and compare it to the course video.

Eddie

I agree and see what you are talking about. But, this kinda comes back to my question. If you look at Dillon on the MN/PE8 video holding on to the offset dowel (same set up i am using), his hip height is similar to mine. There is minimal lat pull but it's still there. But the athlete in MN/PE9 holding the dowel on the same plane seems to have much less lat pull through the movement like you said. I'm curious if that is because of the hand placement and if that is mastery requirement. I haven't tried that hand placement but it looks like it would be much harder.

Jon Douglas

A picture perfect HLL would keep the lower back almost entirely pressed into the bars/pad behind you. Keep this in mind, hang from your hands as hooks with shoulders relaxed and allowed to elevate rather than pull actively, and squeeeeze the hips.

I get 0 ab strain and 100% hip work from these, and think only of opening and closing the hip angle when doing them.

Coach Sommer
Eddie said:

 

... This has been my substitute to stall bars ...

 

- Excellent stall bar substitute.  Well done.

 

- Your V to L HLL are acceptable and good enough to pass; although you may want to spend a little more time refining them and try to bring your toes in below your hands rather than above.

 

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

Eddie
Coach Sommer said:

- Excellent stall bar substitute.  Well done.

 

- Your V to L HLL are acceptable and good enough to pass; although you may want to spend a little more time refining them and try to bring your toes in below your hands rather than above.

 

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

Coach, thanks for the response and the input! It has been hard for me to aim for the hands since the only continuous bar is 6in behind them. But after reading everyone's comments and watching the video a few times i can see that if a bar were at my hands that my ankles would be hitting it.

 

I will stay here for a couple more workouts and place a band across the handles to have a visual, I think that will help alot with forcing more compression. Thanks to everyone for the feed back!

Cole Dano

You called it, the 6 inch offset of the bar isn't going to matter that much, try to get your toes on it.

 

However your form and tempo are looking great.