One Arm Handstand

Quite a few references to One Arm Handstand in H2

Yeah I noticed that too. Looks like H3 might be covering them after all.

In H2 it says that you must completely master the pike press before moving into OAHS training.

In this case H3 should have at least H1 and H2 as pre reqs.

But the curriculum says:

Handstand 3; prerequisite = F1, F2, F3

But it can be something like we have in H2... H1 is not a pre req but it requires a good part of h1 done in order to move to the SEs

And as H3 is not required at all in Rings training and there is no such thing as OAHS on rings, it is really a great possibility that H3 is OAHS.

It also mentions a minimum of a one minute HS at H1 standards for one arm work.

OAHS is a pipe dream for me personally, a 'that would be awesome sometime' skill, but when I eventually nail my two min HS I expect my perspective will change.

There's also the possibility that it's One Arm Handstand's will be one of those "additional" courses that was previously hinted at, but not part of the "main" curriculum.  Kinda like the upcoming stretch courses

Baum said:

In H2 it says that you must completely master the pike press before moving into OAHS training.

 

In this case H3 should have at least H1 and H2 as pre reqs.

 

But the curriculum says:

Handstand 3; prerequisite = F1, F2, F3

 

But it can be something like we have in H2... H1 is not a pre req but it requires a good part of h1 done in order to move to the SEs

 

And as H3 is not required at all in Rings training and there is no such thing as OAHS on rings, it is really a great possibility that H3 is OAHS.

It could indeed be like H2. Maybe we'll be able to work on the PEs provided that F1-2-3 are mastered, but the SEs will require you to have mastered the pike press. Also, Japanese HS could be in here somewhere before you actually start on one-arm work.

I still think ring handstand or perhaps even further press hs work more likely than OAHS for H3

Going by this https://www.gymnasticbodies.com/forum/topic/8084-preparing-the-elbows-and-biceps-for-iron-cross-training/,

if ring HS were going to be in H3, then H3 would be a prereq for R2 or R3. The Ring series will definitely follow something like in the link, though probably with more detailed progressions and corresponding iMs (and it will also have the bent arm strength and leverage assisted strength aspects).

As for further press HS work, apart from the stalder presses, I don't really see what's missing in H2, but that may just be me.

H1 wasn't a prerequisite for handstand pushups or hollowback press in foundation though, so H3 can be for ring handstands while Ring has the press handstands.

There's the planche press to handstand, where I remember Dillon talking about that it's "different" compared to pike press to handstands

H3 is one-arm work. Coach confirmed so today.

Okay, I only just saw the post in the public forums just now

Getting into OAHS work with a good 2 min HS (ideally) and a solid pike press (ideally)....I think there is still quite a big gap to fill in between. Kind of surprised that these are the only 2 requirements for OAHS work (for the handstand portion)...

BMJD said:

Getting into OAHS work with a good 2 min HS (ideally) and a solid pike press (ideally)....I think there is still quite a big gap to fill in between. Kind of surprised that these are the only 2 requirements for OAHS work (for the handstand portion)...

I don't think H3 is going to start right off with "ok now just balance on one hand". There will be a whole bunch of PE exercises to be mastered before you actually balance on one arm. E.g. one-arm chest to wall handstands, block walks, weight shifting drills, etc.

does handstand wall runs have a carryover to OAHS

Hmms said:

does handstand wall runs have a carryover to OAHS

Yes, they build strength that will be needed for OAHS.

Hmms said:

H1 wasn't a prerequisite for handstand pushups or hollowback press in foundation though, so H3 can be for ring handstands while Ring has the press handstands.

 

Hi Hmms-

Hi Hmms-

Just to add more nuance, if I recall correctly, I believe Coach Sommer treats ring HS as terrific brachialis preparation for cross work, so I speculate it may turn up in the Ring courses.

best,

jason

Joshua Slocum said:

I don't think H3 is going to start right off with "ok now just balance on one hand". There will be a whole bunch of PE exercises to be mastered before you actually balance on one arm. E.g. one-arm chest to wall handstands, block walks, weight shifting drills, etc.

I'm quite sure that those drills will be covered, but I'm refering to the time needed for pursuing OAHS. I think it's going to be a huge jump from 2 - 3 times a week to 5 - 6 (preferably 7) days a week (on that skill alone). 

You guys are overly impressed with OAHS.  It is not nearly as difficult to achieve as you have been led to believe.  

You are forgetting that coming from a gymnastics background, Yuval developed a basic OAHS in a few weeks and Sapinoso developed his basic OAHS in a few months.  The key is beginning the specific OAHS training from a solid foundation of GST.

Yes, it is a great skill.  However at the end of the day it is still only a OAHS.  

There are many far more difficult skills.

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

Coach Sommer said:

You guys are overly impressed with OAHS.  It is not nearly as difficult to achieve as you have been led to believe.  

 

You are forgetting that coming from a gymnastics background, Yuval developed a basic OAHS in less than a year and Sapinoso developed his basic OAHS in less time than that.  The key is beginning the specific OAHS training from a solid foundation of GST.

 

Yes, it is a great skill.  However at the end of the day it is still only a OAHS.  

 

There are many far more difficult skills.

 

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

Impresiveeee

The following copy of a public forum post by alex87 may help to give you better insight into the OAHS' place in GST.

"... In the gymnastic world the one arm handstand is a standard skill used as conditioning work (and cool down sometimes) and it is necessary to learn other more difficult transition. both Morandi and Cassina are able to hold one arm handstand on the horse and on the pommel with both hands. the OAH is not something you see only on circus performance or elite gymnastic athletes but it is a milestone of at least gymnasts that compete for national level or less. the major part of my team who competes not for high national level A1 but in the series just below A2-B1 are all capable of holding one arm handstand straddles or in full lay, on both arms. one of them who is 1996 class held it on one arm for more then 40 seconds.

You may find Alex's original post here.

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

Those are some of the coolest side lever walks I have ever seen

Interestingly, Yuval Ayalon posted a facebook status today about how long it takes to learn a OAHS, parallel's Coach's statement in many ways. Worth a read!

Yuval's facebook post.

Edit: thanks to coach/moderator for posting the link! You are far less lazy than I