Started by Nautique163, December 1, 2013 · 9 Replies · 4,001 Views
I just read this article. I had pain in my left shoulder for years till I started doing coaches band sequence,basically just work the shoulders in all directions with a light band or cord . Have not had any pain at all since !
http://www.ergo-log.com/how-to-prevent-impingement-in-your-shoulder.html
Thanks for that -
I've never been good at statistics, so when it says:
<<The researchers then looked at whether there was a relationship between the subacromial impingement syndrome and the way the men trained. And indeed, there was a link. Of the men who did lateral raises and upright rows the wrong way, 20 and 18 percent respectively showed signs of impingement.>>
that tells me that 80-82% don't show signs of impingement, which is the better figure and result. :-O
Also, do you have a link to the band sequence please?
Nautique163 said:I just read this article. I had pain in my left shoulder for years till I started doing coaches band sequence,basically just work the shoulders in all directions with a light band or cord . Have not had any pain at all since !
http://www.ergo-log.com/how-to-prevent-impingement-in-your-shoulder.html
When you had this pain, in which (training) situations did it bother you the most?
I´ve had problems with my right shoulder since May. This problem came creeping up on me. The situations that bothered me the most were the concentric part of a dip, when doing a Muscle up the transition part would hurt/strain the front of my shoulder. I t has gotten better but it is still bothering me a bit. Dips are alright now if I concentrate on being as upright as possible and dont lean forward.
By the way "Nautique 163", does this nickname come from the waterski/wakeboard boat?
Nautique163 said:I just read this article. I had pain in my left shoulder for years till I started doing coaches band sequence,basically just work the shoulders in all directions with a light band or cord . Have not had any pain at all since !
http://www.ergo-log.com/how-to-prevent-impingement-in-your-shoulder.html
Let me summarize this article: Train your external rotators, and don't lift your arm above horizontal. I agree that this will be very good for your shoulder. However, you won't be doing gymnastics.
I had the pain for years as I was a mechanic and was doing a lot of overhead work for hours a day . The doctors said I had slight Tendinosis and possible impingement , it hurt most when just reaching for something overhead or just. Steering the car . They said there was not much to do for it but rest and maybe a shot .
It hurt to do dips especially at the bottom .
Since starting f1 and attending a seminar , I think what fixed it was doing the proper push-up progression and the band stuff . I don't think there is a link or video of it, Allen just did a demo of it at the seminar . It's really just setting up the bands and trying to work your shoulders thru every range of motions you can think of . I have not had any pain at all since doing it almost daily
Yes mats it is after the ski nautique
addressing Christoph:
Actually, the article was demonstrating that if you trained your external rotators you only had a 2% chance of impingement. If you did training that put your arm into impingement, you had a 20% chance of impingement. It's not necessarily implying you need to avoid those activities, so much as it is saying to train your external rotators to prevent impingement when you do other activities that might otherwise cause impingement (how's that for a run on sentence). I actually don't think there are many activities in gymnastics that put the shoulder into impingement. I'm not an expert gymnast, but of the usual gymnastics types moves i can think of only deep dips put your shoulder into impingement, and this can be mitigated by holding a hollow body position while doing them (i.e. not leaning forward or crossing your legs behind). I think gymnasts generally are pretty smart about avoiding impingement, although having strong external rotators and strong serratus anterior will help prevent impingement when those motions do occur (as summarized in the article). Good find Nautique.
Nautique163 said:
Nautique163 said:I have not had any pain at all since doing it almost daily
Bottom part of the dip still hurt or is it gone?
Are you a waterskier or wakeboarder? I used to ski alot, I did the slalom course for years and had alot of fun. Then our office moved and the trip to the lake became to long. And yes we used a Nautique at our club.
It does not hurt doing dips now but I only do a few reps here and there as I'm still trying to pass the HBPpe2 .
Keeping fingers crossed
I mainly just wakesurf now.. The crashes hurt a lot less than wake boarding !
I never tried slalom but would love to try it.
I have a Sanger 215 now but still think Nautiques are the best !
Nautique163 said:It does not hurt doing dips now but I only do a few reps here and there as I'm still trying to pass the HBPpe2 .
Keeping fingers crossed
I mainly just wakesurf now.. The crashes hurt a lot less than wake boarding !
I never tried slalom but would love to try it.
I have a Sanger 215 now but still think Nautiques are the best !
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Awsome!
MT Nordic said:addressing Christoph:
Actually, the article was demonstrating that if you trained your external rotators you only had a 2% chance of impingement. If you did training that put your arm into impingement, you had a 20% chance of impingement. It's not necessarily implying you need to avoid those activities, so much as it is saying to train your external rotators to prevent impingement when you do other activities that might otherwise cause impingement (how's that for a run on sentence). I actually don't think there are many activities in gymnastics that put the shoulder into impingement. I'm not an expert gymnast, but of the usual gymnastics types moves i can think of only deep dips put your shoulder into impingement, and this can be mitigated by holding a hollow body position while doing them (i.e. not leaning forward or crossing your legs behind). I think gymnasts generally are pretty smart about avoiding impingement, although having strong external rotators and strong serratus anterior will help prevent impingement when those motions do occur (as summarized in the article). Good find Nautique.
but what about bulgarian HSPU? it's overhead shoulder abduction with external rotation, and that can also produce impingement.