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Mastery Problem

Started by Boris Mikael Taube, October 9, 2013 · 16 Replies · 613 Views

Boris Mikael Taube

When im doing SL PE1. I can do 5*36 but its pretty hard but this week is 4*48 second. But i failed. I wounder if i should stay longer than 3 months in one progresseion?

And same problem with Mannda PE1.

Have anybody tha same problem? Should i just stay with the excercise till i mastery completely? even if it takes more than 3months?

Adriano Augusto

Some of us have been more than 5 months in one progression. I spent 4/5 months on HBP/PE2 just doing pushups and also I'm with SL/PE1 since F1 release, and I'm not the only one.

 

The thing is: the more stuck you are in one exercise, the more you need it. So, if I'm stuck with SL means that I've to fix my spinal extension active flexibility because it sucks a lot. How? Not just doing SL, so foam roll, more flexibility drills, less time sitting, etc.

 

So yes, you've to stay with the exercise till you get mastery, whatever frame of time takes.

jvenna

Don't vorry, Just stay at the progression as long as it takes to reach mastery. Ive been doing F1 and HS1 a litle ojur two months and already I have found several PEs that are going to take more than 3 months to master. SL PE1 and FL PE1 especially seem to be very hard for me. If you read the older forum posts you can also find out that there are a lot of people who have used a lot more than 3 months for some progressions.

Joshua Slocum

I find sometimes the ramp-up after deload week is too much. What I try to do in such cases is do a mini-cycle that's half-way between. E.g. if I were in your position, instead of a minicycle consisting of 4x48, 4x60, 5x60, 5x30, I'd do 4x42, 4x48, 5x48, 4x24, and then move on to 4x48, 4x60, etc. 

Boris Mikael Taube

Thanks for info guys. Just have to keep getting more stronger. Very different training for me. Before 3-5 rep long break and another set. I have no muscle endurance. even in the simpliest excercises:P 

LateStarter@46

In a similar boat here - can do 5 x 60s SL PE1 but with poor ROM, and have only just moved on to MN PE2. I would add in exercises that complement the PE. E.g. For the MN PE1, lots of static compression holds, just doing the leg portion with torso fixed, just doing the torso portion with legs fixed, stretching hip flexors and back extensors etc etc ad nauseam  :)

After all this I definitely feel it improving bit by bit.

Good luck!

Boris Mikael Taube

coach say the foundation is prescribed for 18 months of work. and all the foundation could be finish in 5-7 years and 4 if progression fast. But if i stay stuck in one progression in 5 months. how could i be finish? It will take more than 18 months to be finish the foundation 1. I will try to finish the whole foundation 1 before 2015 :P When i first looked at it. i said to myeself some weeks i will be on the foundation 2 LOL!

Joshua Slocum
Boris Mikael Taube said:

coach say the foundation is prescribed for 18 months of work. and all the foundation could be finish in 5-7 years and 4 if progression fast. But if i stay stuck in one progression in 5 months. how could i be finish? It will take more than 18 months to be finish the foundation 1. I will try to finish the whole foundation 1 before 2015 :P When i first looked at it. i said to myeself some weeks i will be on the foundation 2 LOL!

 

I find progress tends to come in spurts. Some exercises will be real sticking points, requiring months of work, and others you'll be able to get through in 4 week or even test out of immediately. 

Cole Dano

Coach said it can and has been done that quickly, but that doesn't mean it's a race. Take your time a do the steps well let today build the foundation for tomorrow.

Michael Borregaard

I have been doing Foundation for almost 4 months now, and I may reach mastery of SLS this week - though I will probably do another micro-cycle at least to improve the form. I am stuck in the 5-8 microcycle for RC, sPL, HBP and SL, and the 9-12 microcycle for FL and MN. My guess is that the largest variation in how long it takes to complete PEs will be for the PE1 and PE2 levels, because people start with different basic fitness. I assume it will follow more regularly later on.

Sven Ravnstag

I think a GB training app containing a series of derisive comments from Coach might be an effective adjunct to the online program.

gohei_
Steve Sisk said:

I think a GB training app containing a series of derisive comments from Coach might be an effective adjunct to the online program.

"Your hands are bleeding from rope burn, eh? Well suck it up and get back up there!"  :icon_twisted:

dritar

The first SL PE1/2 are hard for almost everyone. To give some perspective there's someone who has a Maltese Cross but did not master SLPE2.

 

I've been stuck on 5x36s for almost 3 months. I'm almost ready to start doing 4x48s but I'll probably be stuck with them quite some time.

 

I find the the recommendation that you should avoid form failure but not avoid discomfort (and in the case of SL/PE1 pain in the ego) a useful mantra to have.

Sven Ravnstag
gohei_ said:

"Your hands are bleeding from rope burn, eh? Well suck it up and get back up there!"  :icon_twisted:

Maybe it's just me, but there's something magical about Coach's unique blend of no-nonsense snark and scathingly appropriate rebukes that I find profoundly motivating.  Many times I've read remarks directed at others (but which could just as easily have been aimed at me) excoriating them for a presumptuously unqualified assessment of GB techniques, dismissing their silly complaints, or lamenting a general lack of worth ethic amongst us late Johnny-come-lately GST amateurs and think to myself "Damn right!  To work!".  

 

In the last few weeks I've caught myself mid-rationalization, contemplating skipping a scheduled session for no good reason, only to be reminded of a warning against "taking too casual an approach" to my Foundation training.  My girlfriend asks why I can't just skip the last set of ______ so we can have dinner, and inevitably my reply is "Because if I don't master this element Coach Sommer is NEVER going to release Hungarian!!!"

Jon Douglas
Steve Sisk said:

I think a GB training app containing a series of derisive comments from Coach might be an effective adjunct to the online program.

Second.

Adriano Augusto
My girlfriend asks why I can't just skip the last set of ______ so we can have dinner, and inevitably my reply is "Because if I don't master this element Coach Sommer is NEVER going to release Hungarian!!!"

 

Same case :D

Sven Ravnstag
Adriano Flo said:

Same case :D

She: "Hungarian?  What's that?"

 

I: "I DON'T KNOW!!!"