First ever "close to impossible?

Started by Destiny, September 1, 2013 · 10 Replies · 7,576 Views

B1214N

No it's not a CTI. It's more like a wide grip FL with arms supported. CTI requires an inhuman grip.

Rayne-William

If it weren't for the wrist support, I would say that is a "Close To Impossible" static hold.

Alessandro Mainente

Do you understand how much power can give the counter lever situation demonstrated in this exercise?

The guy in the video is not grabbing directly the bar , he is grabbing a bar while another obstacle on the forearm is opposed to the bodyweight. 

for these reason there is not the same leverage as the CTI that from today i'll call Impossible and nothing more and therse is not the supposed grips of impossible.

 

i'll not talk about again about why try to perform this is impossible. But i'm sure that people who thinks that is reasonable spent time over this have zero knowledge about the leverage system of the body and in general about the physics law. Nothing more.

Talk about the programs developed by Coach, why they are good and reasonable? because they are supported by laws of leverage systems, trigonometry and more.

Until this happens is good and makes sense train a skills. but i think that we can make a sort of reward for the first one who will do the Impossible. we can put together 10 cent from the entire world and i'm sure that all this money will remain without a beneficiary.

 

Is the same thing about the reward of the CICAP for people who demonstrate to have paranormal powers out of physical laws.

The reward is 1 milion dollars and the project was activated in the first of may 1996. mmmm about 20 years, there are different charlatans who said about posses different power. But the money are always without a beneficiary.

 

The fact is that gymnastic is strongly supported by bio-mechanical, physics, anatomy, cinematic and dynamic laws and you can demonstrate how a movement begins, how  a movement evolves and predict how it will end. 

All the other matters ARE FOR DREAMERS.

dasede

Yet another CTI thread  :D

ForzaCavaliere

Far out, does no one consider the person who actually created the move? 

JasperBenincasa2b.jpg 

 

Jasper Benincasa (RIP). His feet are not supported by anything in this pic, as demonstrated by him continuing the CTI in the same place at the same time here: 

 

JasperCTIFull.jpg

B1214N

I know about Jasper Benincasa and respect him a lot, but I don't think that first photo was a hold and he never said that he held it like in that photo. 

 

The CTI in the second photo might have been a hold and still required a phenomenal grip, but nowhere near much as in the first photo. It also isn't at the same time as the first photo clearly. Notice that it was done with a narrow width grip and no forearm support unlike the guy in the video you posted.

ForzaCavaliere

OK. This isn't firsthand referencing, but on a tribute to Jasper on Beastskills website, the author (Jim) mentions that Jasper said he held the CTI for 3 seconds. 

 

I think the CTI Jasper did in the photos is actually a hold of 3 seconds, because I think the two photographs are of the same attempt. If you look at the people in the background, the 2 guys are still sitting there (facing away), the woman climbing the slide is still climbing the slide but is now stopped to face the camera, and other people are in the same positions but slightly moved. The major difference is that the woman that is walking to the left of the picture has... gone! Which supports the 3 second hold claim, because it would be at most 3 seconds for the lady to walk off the frame. 

 

But yeah, as you mentioned, the guy in the video I posted has a wide grip that is definitely using a cantilever support, something I hadn't noticed until you pointed it out. I think only superhuman's can do this, and if it wasn't for my analysis of the Jasper images I would have considered the technique pretty much impossible.

Joshua Slocum

The CTI is improperly named. It is simply Impossible.  

 

I don't think Jasper ever held it, or even claimed to hold it. All we have is third or fourth hand claims made by the article that BeastSkills wrote. Mechanically speaking, the CTI requires a level of strength that is simply super human. It's not "just past the edge of what we think is humanly possible", it's "completely outside the realm of possibility". Performing a CTI would be like deadlifting 2000 kilos. 

 

To get an idea of what kind of impossible we're talking about, the forces involved would be roughly equivalent to a multiple-bodyweight wrist extension and a many-bodyweight crush grip. 

B1214N
Joshua Slocum said:

To get an idea of what kind of impossible we're talking about, the forces involved would be roughly equivalent to a multiple-bodyweight wrist extension and a many-bodyweight crush grip. 

Do you think the CTI in the second photo requires a grip and forearm strength that may be somewhat borderline within human limits or would it still be way beyond human limits like in the first photo? It looks like he was using some chalk. The reason I asked is because I've seen others and myself do something really close to the CTI in the second photo but with the assist of a false grip.