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Kim Jongseong

This is off the topic but i wanted to make sure if its true. My quesstion is everytime people see young gymnast then they say these kids are done with growing taller. I'm sick of hearing this. Is this true?. Doing gymnastics at the age of 5-13 hampers the growth?

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Do we all recognize his rings? I think I was reading on his youtube that a GB member sent him a set of the rings.

The rings were sent to him by Ashita from the forum. No wonder they're so beastly when in contact with Ashita ;)

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Joshua Naterman
This is off the topic but i wanted to make sure if its true. My quesstion is everytime people see young gymnast then they say these kids are done with growing taller. I'm sick of hearing this. Is this true?. Doing gymnastics at the age of 5-13 hampers the growth?

No, that's ridiculous.

There IS some truth to that in females, but that is because of fairly severe dietary restrictions that are put on a lot of them and is completely separate from gymnastics itself. There is no sport that is going to hamper growth, not even Olympic Lifting. The only things that can screw your growth up are malnutrition and fracturing growth plates, which is a traumatic impact injury. Skateboarding is probably the riskiest sport in this regard, especially when pads are not used.

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Alvaro Antolinez

I remember reading an article about gymnasts and growth. The conclusion said that the growing could slow down on the hardest part of the season but in the moment the training eased they picked up with the rest of boys. What is happening is that shorter people have better power weight relationship which makes them more competitive at gymnastics. Just as saying that basket promotes growth because most of the players are more than 6' ( I guess)

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This is a common myth. Gymnastics does not make someone shorter anymore than playing basketball makes someone taller. People simply tend to gravitate toward whichever sport allows their particular phenotype to be the most successful.

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

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The main problem is: if the young body can handle this

I hope not, pulling the mom card like that is just dirty! :lol: You have to start with chugging pickled jalapeno juice! :P

o.O Maybe the pickled jalapeno juice would be incentive...I remember soaking fried chicken in jalapeno juice from Church's as a kid...mmm, tasty...I think it's lunchtime... :lol:

Serious question:

Won't someone as active as a competitive gymnast self-regulate as far as their diet is concerned, assuming quality foods?

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Joshua Naterman

Varies from person to person. Obviously better food = better results, but if you're winning and eating McDonalds twice a day what is the incentive to stop (from the athlete's perspective)?

Hey, soaking the chicken in pickled jalapeno juice is pretty smart... I might steal that! ^_^

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No, not all gymnasts eat whatever we consider is healthy. Sometimes this is pretty dialed in when they are young but this is due to the habits of that family. Many regulate what they eat based on their hunger and if they don't have any hangups about eating (preteen girls image issues or GERD).

It's somewhat common for female gymnasts to grow a bit in height besides filling out after retiring from gym. Shawn Johnson being one of those cases. Extra calories that they are still eating but aren't burning off.

I haven't heard of it in boys as much but there are some athletes who simply aren't big eaters.

One of my young guys when I came to one gym hadn't really grown in about a year. He has GERD and would eat slowly and not a lot because of it. Eventually we started trying out a lot of things besides encouraging him to eat during snack break ( I let him eat of my stash in the fridge as I did most of my boys ). His parents are above average tall but he was supposedly only going to end up at 5'3 though he has been sprouting the last year and a half and also not getting as tired as quickly in the workouts.

Allan and Alex are supposed to be pretty dialed in nutrition wise from what I have heard. John Horton mentioned he was going on a body builder diet to lean out this year (brown rice, chicken breast and steamed veggies).

Some parents are pretty serious about in the levels up to junior elite but many eat what they consider is good enough. Some girls are eating machines while others try the whole gonna be vegetarian or vegan or don't want to eat a lot schtick (effectively meaning they don't eat enough period).

In most gyms, coaches really have to play it safe talking about nutrition in vague terms since we don't want to end up having a girl become bulemic or anorexic. It's a bigger issue in dance but we still see it somewhat in gymnastics and I could tell you the stories of one coach I knew who competed under Bela with Nadia.

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Well, diet is certainly not easy with all of the misinformation out there. I have 5 kids, the oldest being 9 and the yougest 4 months, and all of my kids are pretty lean. They all eat well, and they eat plenty, but they all do gymnastics (except the baby) and they are all very active. Believe it or not, I've had a pediatrician recommend that I feed my kids candy and junk food because they were "too" lean. Bear in mind that my kids get a little bit of candy as a reward for taking cod liver oil (blech) and helping mommy around the house and so forth. Junk food we just don't do, a lot of whole foods and meat around our house and we only eat out infrequently. :)

One thing that caught my attention that I thought would be worth sharing:

Crossfit, which I'm sure many here are familiar with, advocates the "Athletes" Zone, which is a modified form of the Zone diet. The essential difference is that as performance levels off the fat blocks are increased, which results in performance increases. End result is that their athletes end up eating a lot more fat. One thing that's been pointed out is that women following this have had bodyfat levels dipping into the low teens or even single digits, but with no amenorrhea (absence of menstruation). To me it seems an indicator that their bodies are continuing to function normally, though there would need to be studies to be sure of all of the effects.

I'm not necessarily advocating any particular diet, but I find it very interesting. And it makes me wonder how a female gymnast's body would react to such a diet.

Maybe I'll be able to let you know someday, though my children's diet isn't tracked or anything. We eat, as a family, a diet that is higher in fat and lower in carbs than most, and with plenty of protein. My main goal is for my kids to have fun with it and grow up healthy, I'm not all that worried about competition. As for "big eaters", it seems, at least with my kids, that we can tell when they're going through a growth spurt by how much they're eating. I know. Kinda obvious, but it's interesting to watch them self-regulate. The trick is to keep from pushing one way or the other. I grew up in a house where we were expected to finish everything we were served and I still feel guilt if there's food left on my plate...and I have the belly to prove it...lol (I'm working on it :))

(wow...sorry for the long post, I'm usually just a lurker...I've had to rejoin a couple of times :mrgreen: )

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Believe it or not, I've had a pediatrician recommend that I feed my kids candy and junk food because they were "too" lean.

When I hear this from a "specialist", then I believe that there is something very, very wrong here. The other day I read some article on a popular site in czech republic - the advice there was to remove meat from your diet (because you don't need it anyway) and replace it with legumes. Just wrong.

Anyway, kreitzig, we're going off topic, but if you like, you could start a new topic in Nutrition section, I would really like to discuss these topics.

As for Giuliano - I've written on his facebook site, with a tip for his father, that he should ease up with crosses and maltese, one other guy from this forum (maybe) supported me, in the end we were both called "Comics" by Giuliano's father, well, good luck for him.

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As for Giuliano - I've written on his facebook site, with a tip for his father, that he should ease up with crosses and maltese, one other guy from this forum (maybe) supported me, in the end we were both called "Comics" by Giuliano's father, well, good luck for him.

It's a real shame that he isn't taking the advice more seriously, especially when it's coming from a top-notch coach. There are plenty of impressive feats for Giuliano to do that won't risk his health like the crosses, and I don't really think the general public can appreciate the difficulty of those types of moves enough to warrant the risk (if impressing people is what the father's aiming for). From my experience people not familiar with gymnastics are far more impressed with things like planche pushups than they are with high-end rings strength. Everyone's done a pushup, so they are in awe at the thought of doing one without the body ever touching the ground, but people can't really fathom the difficulty of a maltese without some knowledge of gymnastics.

Certainly won't be the first time a parent has ruined their child's health in the pursuit of stardom, but tragic nonetheless.

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