griffdrc Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 i know that they are difficult on the floor but does anyone do mannas on the rings? i'ld love to see this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 NO. It would be like doing victorian on rings. Your triceps would explode But I was thinking to try manna-cross hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathal Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 even V-sits are rarely done on rings, i think they are rated the same in the COP as an L-sit though so why waste energy on it when you could do a simple L-sit and get the same score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 A V sit is a B, while a L sit is an A. I thought a manna and some other stuff might have been in older codes but I could be mixing it up with floor. I honestly haven't checked in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathal Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 blairbob i have the 2006 code of points on my computer and the v-sit is ranked A along with the L-sit(full and staddled), back lever and front lever. are you sure its a B skill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 V seat is a B! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathal Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 well there must be a mistake then on the COP i downloaded off the FIG website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 in the December 2006 (07 year) V sit is listed as an A, 2 boxes below L sit pg 83 #19 in the version 2 and version 3 of the 2009-2012 code off of FIg pg 78#2 between L sit and inverted cross perhaps they are trying to get people to train it and go for manna, dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Beacuse, now I'm looking the new code (draft 2) and it says it's B on the floor and on the ring is B!!!The third draft will be out in a December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 http://gymnasticbodies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=757 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Picó García Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 L-sit has the same rating as front lever? :shock: Well i think this codes have to be revised. :wink:Thanks, that's a great resource of information, and its also in spanish!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 they could change that for juniors. But for seniors it doesn't matter.That change went out with new code in year 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon Castro Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 i agree with serotonin. i can do an L seat with straight legs for about 5-10 seconds but not a full front lever at all. Also, wouldn't v sits be considered much more difficult than a L seat no matter what apparatus they are performed on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 A v-sit would be harder, but if it's A move, it's considered so low it is barely worth rating. In the JO code, an iron cross used to be a C and a front lever a B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambo5501 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 A v-sit would be harder, but if it's A move, it's considered so low it is barely worth rating. In the JO code, an iron cross used to be a C and a front lever a B.I recently checked and I saw the Iron Cross as a B move? Thats nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 A v-sit would be harder, but if it's A move, it's considered so low it is barely worth rating. In the JO code, an iron cross used to be a C and a front lever a B.I recently checked and I saw the Iron Cross as a B move? Thats nuts!For seniors it's ok, C would be to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 In the US, we've switched over to pure FIG code for our optionals so there won't be any different judging system of JO and FIG anymore. I don't know what the girls are doing and I should find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambo5501 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 A v-sit would be harder, but if it's A move, it's considered so low it is barely worth rating. In the JO code, an iron cross used to be a C and a front lever a B.I recently checked and I saw the Iron Cross as a B move? Thats nuts!For seniors it's ok, C would be to much.Talking about mannas. Is it possible to do a iron cross manna? lolAn easier one would be iron cross V-sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairbob Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 That would be some insane piked victorian thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 V-seat iron cross is not any harder then an L-seat or normal cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambo5501 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 one question. I saw more than 1 L-sits in ring routines in this past olympics. If L-sits are considered the same as Front-levers in value. Why choose L-sit over a front lever. Or can some one clarify for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 The end score is combined from A score (difficulty) and B score (deduction).1.) B score is scored from 10 points down, so if you have 0,8 deduction, your B score is 9,2.2.) A score is combined from 10 MOST VALUBLY elements from 5 diffrent structure group, so you can have it 15, but it wll count only 10 most valuebly. And from each group you must have at least one and maxximum 4 elements.Rings structures:1. Kip and swings elements2. Strenght elements3. Swing to handstand elements4. Swing to strenght elements5. dismountsSo why they do L-seats? Beacuse you can make transitions or with other words from l-seatyou can make a press to handstand and from handstand you can swing to dismount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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