Additional weight-training for ambition. gymnastic beginner

[dmm]

dear coach sommer and community,

I am a gymnastic beginner (adult from Germany) with primary interest in building up strength, atheltics and increased body shape (still nice but always can get better: http://www.modelstyle.com/Modelagentur- ... 33704.html

I startet with gymnastics 2 weeks before and do a lot of sports all my live (martial arts, triathlon, kettlebell-instructor, weight-training) and focus strength-elements, especially the RINGS (hi yuri van gelder ).

My question is how I can assist my strength-buildup - especially for rings - with weight-training, because I don't want to miss weight-training completely.

Thanks a lot.

Daniel

[Gregor]

Hard very hard!!!!

Weight training in my opinon can be just a supplementall trainig and just for competitive gymnast with world cup ambitions. I personaly do weight training (I'm a ring specialist) but i just simulate the moves (like giant moves: from habdstand to handstand swing with straight arms; from swallow to planche,...)

In near future i'll add my training program to discuss, beacuse gymnast usualy don't train wight weights.

So for basic strenght on rings YOU DON'T NEED WEIGHTS and they are USELESS!!! It's all how you feel you body and how to control it.

Look Balandin muscularaty (I don't see it) in other hand Gelder is another story.

[dmm]

hello,

ok, but I do weight-training for years and I don't want to miss it, even with emphasis on gymnastics. So it's my question how I can do a USEFULL weight-training for my general and ring-strength for gymnastics.

As you say right now I prefer "similar moves" like butterfyl and hard basic-exercisis like deadlift, kettlebell-training, squats and so on but maybe there are special plans or good detail-tipps

:-)

thanks

[cathal]

i find heavy weighted dips to have a good strength carryover to the planche and weighted pullups to help with the front lever. these two weight training moves are quite beneficial for gymnastics

[Gregor]

hello,

ok, but I do weight-training for years and I don't want to miss it, even with emphasis on gymnastics. So it's my question how I can do a USEFULL weight-training for my general and ring-strength for gymnastics.

As you say right now I prefer "similar moves" like butterfyl and hard basic-exercisis like deadlift, kettlebell-training, squats and so on but maybe there are special plans or good detail-tipps

:-)

thanks

I didn't say you must quit from weights, I'm just saying you won't get much from weights to perform gymnastics abillity. 1.Maybe circles with light weights (turn your wrist out and uprise to above your had and around) and straight elbows!!, do it slowely with no back help (straight body all the way). 2.All kind of practice for sholder rotators. 3.shrugs

That's kind of all for rings at that magnitude.

[Blairbob]

I think Gregor is trying to say to keep your weightlifting movements moving similar to gymnastics movements to get the most bang for your buck.

Stand and hold DB out for time or DB from side to above head slowly. Slow lifts from front to above head or negatives down.

Similar to if you were working with cables or theraband and going through movements.

[dmm]

ok,

thanks. Similar the way I thought.