Afiya Zia Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 inverted muscle up should not be included on this list... It is training exercise and is not nearly as hard as the victorian. Same goes for pelican. There are a ton of answers to this. First of all are we talking strictly strength holds? If that is the case then it is probably victorian. If we are talking transitions then that is a different story. As we can include a lot of transitions into victorians and presses from crosses.Why shouldn't a training exercise be included in the discussion? Just because an exercise isn't used in competitions doesn't mean that it can't be hard. Pelican variations, for example, are harder than a few lower grade skills on the Still Rings. I think the thread is only about exercises used by the GST Community, which spans bent and straight arm holds and dynamic movements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Why shouldn't a training exercise be included in the discussion? Just because an exercise isn't used in competitions doesn't mean that it can't be hard. Pelican variations, for example, are harder than a few lower grade skills on the Still Rings. I think the thread is only about exercises used by the GST Community, which spans bent and straight arm holds and dynamic movements.Coach has mentioned that he sometimes has his athletes perform ten rev mu in as a finisher AFTER workouts.Aside from a huge gbodies endorsement IMO, and aside from the fact that its ten more reps than I have, ten reps of (almost) anything takes it out of the running for top difficulty honours in my books. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Douglas Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Also, how great would 10 reps of rev mu be? That's taking time efficient workout to a whole new level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Kristiansen Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Coach Sommer once mentioned something he called a "strength giant"(if i remember correctly) which was supposed to be iron cross-maltese-inverted cross-victorian, OR the other way around. It should biomechanically all be possible in theory but i remember he mentioned that noone has ever done it. Then you also have the "inverted butterfly pull", pulling from inverted hang into invert cross with straight arms. Im pretty sure noone has ever done that either. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Li Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Why shouldn't a training exercise be included in the discussion? Just because an exercise isn't used in competitions doesn't mean that it can't be hard. Pelican variations, for example, are harder than a few lower grade skills on the Still Rings. I think the thread is only about exercises used by the GST Community, which spans bent and straight arm holds and dynamic movements.That's because the elevator (inverted MU) is nowhere near as hard as a Victorian. Even Gregor who can easily do the inverted MU said he feels it should be a B difficulty skill. No one has even done a perfect Victorian yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Li Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Sommer once mentioned something he called a "strength giant"(if i remember correctly) which was supposed to be iron cross-maltese-inverted cross-victorian, OR the other way around. It should biomechanically all be possible in theory but i remember he mentioned that noone has ever done it.I think Danny Rodrigues has done Victorian-iron cross-Maltese-inverted cross before because I've seen it in the Code of Points, but not the other way around though. Victorian to inverted cross and vice versa sounds extremely difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Davies Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 The inverted cross press to HS is possible and is actually a C skill in the Code of Points.And I thought handstand push-ups were impressive.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Aiken Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 One arm planche push up. With the type of rings described by Josh S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Davies Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 One arm handstand pushups, with the rings turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Slocum Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 No arm handstand pushups. With the rings turned inside out. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afiya Zia Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 That's because the elevator (inverted MU) is nowhere near as hard as a Victorian. Even Gregor who can easily do the inverted MU said he feels it should be a B difficulty skill. No one has even done a perfect Victorian yet.Yep, fair enough. How about a sorta Reverse Pelican? Bent/straight arm Front Lever Pull to Victorian. I think my lats and rear deltas would explode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Palutke Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 how long is this thread going to be continued... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 how about a release move where speed and rotation is coming: from a hang to cross to maltese to inverted cross and then release? all this would have to be done extremely fast to be able to perform the double front pike which is supposed to follow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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